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PROVERBS 23:5
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JOB 40:18
18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
FLIGHT RADAR24.COM-ASIA
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NEWS FOR QZ 8501-A320-200 ON MISSING PLANE
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2014/12/airasia-flight-qz-8501-missing-on-way_77.html (D-3A)
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2014/12/airasia-flight-qz-8501-missing-on-way_30.html (D-3)
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2014/12/airasia-flight-qz-8501-missing-on-way_29.html (D-2)
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2014/12/airasia-flight-qz-8501-missing-on-way.html (D-1A)
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2014/12/airasia-flight-qz8501-missing-on-way-to.html (D-1)
ALL MH370 STORIES I DONE
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2014/12/airasia-flight-qz8501-missing-on-way-to.html
MH 777-17 STORIES-RUSSIA DOWNS JETLINER
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2014/08/mh370-2-arrested-for-stealing-20000.html
QZ 8501 A320-200 DEMENTIONS AND DATA
http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamilies/passengeraircraft/a320family/a320/specifications/
NAMES OF PERSONS ON FLIGHT A320-200 QZ 8501
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1669513/list-passengers-air-asia-flight-qz-8501
A320-200 UPDATE-REDDIT
https://www.reddit.com/live/u5bkiqteljl4
EARTH NETWORKS-LIGHTENING STRIKES
http://www.earthnetworks.com/ournetworks/lightningnetwork.aspx
TRANS7 INDONESIA
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MISSING FLIGHT QZ 8501 AIR BUS A320-200-pic-Indianexpress.com
INDONESIA TIME = 12 HOURS AHEAD OF CANADA EST
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MISSING QZ 8501-A320-200 FOUND IN JAVA SEA-ALL DEAD-162-pic-gopixpic.com
UPDATES-DEC 31,14-11:00PM
Reddit small type from indonesia-4:10PM-A vigil has been held in the Indonesian city of Surabaya for the victims of the AirAsia Flight QZ8501 crash. Hundreds of residents and relatives of those on board lit candles and observed a minute's silence for the victims. Flight QZ8501, carrying 162 people from Surabaya to Singapore, disappeared on Sunday.
Improved weather raises hopes that divers can reach suspected AirAsia plane wreck-Reuters-By Fergus Jensen and Wilda Asmarini-dec 31,14-yahoonews
PANGKALAN BUN/SURABAYA, Indonesia (Reuters) - A break in bad weather on Thursday raised hopes that divers would be able to investigate what is believed to be the sunken wreck of an AirAsia jet off Borneo and retrieve the plane's black box that should explain the cause of the crash.The Airbus A320-200, carrying 162 people, fell from the sky while trying to climb above stormy weather early on Sunday, during a flight from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore. The pilots did not issue a distress signal.So far, at least eight bodies have been recovered from waters near where sonar has detected a large, dark object on the ocean floor, lying just 30-50 meters (100-165 feet) deep. But so far rough seas have prevented divers from investigating it."They will try again this morning," said Siahala Alamsyah, a naval officer involved in the search. He said that on Wednesday night, bad weather had prevented a team of 47 Indonesian Navy divers from even flying out to warships at the crash site.However, the skies over Pangkalan Bun air base near the site cleared on Thursday morning and the seas calmed, raising hopes that the search effort could be stepped up.The plane's black box flight data and cockpit voice recorder should help solve the mystery of the crash. Investigators are working on a theory that it went into aerodynamic stall as the pilot climbed steeply to avoid a storm.Bodies recovered from the Java Sea are being taken in numbered coffins to Surabaya, where relatives of the victims have gathered, for identification. Authorities have been collecting DNA from the relatives to help identify the bodies.Some of the bodies recovered so far have been fully clothed, including a flight attendant still wearing her AirAsia uniform. That could indicate the Airbus was intact when it hit the water and also support the aerodynamic stall theory.Most of the 162 people on board were Indonesians. No survivors have been found.
HUNT FOR "BLACK BOX"
Strong wind and waves hampered the search, and with visibility at less than a kilometer (half a mile), the air operation was called off on Wednesday afternoon.Speaking on Wednesday evening, Fransiskus Bambang Soelistyo, the head of the search and rescue agency, said the weather was "challenging in the field, with waves up to 5 meters high, wind reaching 40 km per hour (and) heavy rain, especially in the search area."Indonesian President Joko Widodo said his priority was retrieving the bodies.Relatives, many of whom collapsed in grief when they saw the first grim television pictures confirming their fears on Tuesday, held prayers at a crisis center at Surabaya airport.
"UNBELIEVABLY" STEEP CLIMB
The plane was traveling at 32,000 feet (9,753 meters) and had asked to fly at 38,000 feet to avoid bad weather. When air traffic controllers granted permission for a rise to 34,000 feet a few minutes later, they received no response.A source close to the probe into what happened said radar data appeared to show that the aircraft made an "unbelievably" steep climb before it crashed, possibly pushing it beyond the Airbus A320's limits."So far, the numbers taken by the radar are unbelievably high. This rate of climb is very high, too high. It appears to be beyond the performance envelope of the aircraft," he said.The source, who declined to be named, added that more information was needed to come to a firm conclusion.Online discussion among pilots has centered on unconfirmed secondary radar data from Malaysia that suggested the aircraft was climbing at a speed of 353 knots, about 100 knots too slow, and that it might have stalled.The Indonesian captain, a former air force fighter pilot, had 6,100 flying hours under his belt and the plane last underwent maintenance in mid-November, according to the airline, which is 49 percent owned by Malaysia- based budget carrier AirAsia.Three airline disasters involving Malaysian-affiliated carriers in less than a year have dented confidence in the country's aviation industry and spooked travelers.Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 went missing in March on a trip from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew and has not been found. On July 17, the same airline's Flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine, killing all 298 people on board.On board Flight QZ8501 were 155 Indonesians, three South Koreans, and one person each from Singapore, Malaysia and Britain. The co-pilot was French.The AirAsia group, including affiliates in Thailand, the Philippines and India, had not suffered a crash since its Malaysian budget operations began in 2002.(Additional reporting by Gayatri Suroyo, Kanupriya Kapoor, Michael Taylor and Charlotte Greenfield in JAKARTA/SURABAYA, Jane Wardell in SYDNEY and Anshuman Daga in SINGAPORE; Editing by Mark Bendeich and Ryan Woo)
UPDATES-DEC 31,14-12:45PM
4 MORE BODIES HAS BEEN DISCOVERED IN THE JAVA SEA.BRINING THE TOTAL FOUND AT 10.AND AS OF 7:30AM DEC 31,14.IT STILL HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED BY TONY FERNANDES THAT THE SONAR DID FIND THE MISSING PLANE IN THE JAVA SEA YET.ITS NOW 12:15PM AND ITS STILL NOT CONFIRMED THAT THEY HAVE FOUND THE PLACE BY SONAR WERE THE PLANE LIES IN THE JAVA SEA.THIS IS TURNING INTO ANOTHER MH 370 AND MALAYSIAN THROWING ALL KINDS OF STUFF AT THE MEDIA.THEN ITS FALSE LEADS OR JUST COMPL ETELY MADE UP. SO NOW WE GOTTA PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO ANYTHING INDONESIA SAYS.IN CASE THEY ARE TURNING THIS INTO A WILD GOOSE CHACE LIKE THE MALAYSIAN PRIME MINISTER DID WITH THE MH370 SITUATION.IN FACT THE MH370 SITUATION AFTER 10 MONTHS IS STILL NOT COMPLETE.reddit updates in small type from indonesia.3 more #QZ8501 bodies recovered from seas off coast of Kalimantan, bringing total to at least 10, Malaysia Naval Chief.There's a miscommunication. The number of bodies recovered is 6 not 7.Victim's relatives who stayed in Hotel Halogen got 'kicked out', their bags are taken out of their room. Air Asia said that there is a miscommunication problem and that they will quickly look for a new hotel for them.OH NO NOW THE VICTIMS FAMILIES ARE GETTING BOOTED FROM THEIR HOTEL ROOMS.THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED TO THE MH370 FAMILIES. THIS IS TURNING INTO ANOTHER MH370 ALL OVER AGAIN.SO SAD FOR THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE INNOCENT VICTIMS OF THE PLANE CRASH.2 more vessels to assist in #QZ801 search, says Defence Minister.Day 4 of #QZ8501 search focused on 4 sectors of 28x56 nautical miles: Malaysia @ChiefofNavy.
UPDATES-DEC 31,14-06:20AM
7 BODIES HAVE BEEN RECOVERED.AND ITS 6:20PM IN INDONESIA AND THE WEATHER IS TO BAD TO GO TO THE PLANE SITE AND START RECOVERING BODIES.THERE SAYING THE PLANE MIGHT BE UPSIDE DOWN ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JAVA SEA.AND THEIR SAYING-BECAUSE THERES ONLY BEEN 7 BODIES RECOVERED FROM THE QZ 8501-A320-200.THIS PROBABLY MEANS THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE ARE STILL TRAPPED INTO THEIR SEATS JUST LIKE I HAD A FEELING WITH MY PREDICTION ALSO IN D-3A OF MY SCINERIO OF HOW I THINK THE QZ 8501 CAME DOWN.
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2014/12/airasia-flight-qz-8501-missing-on-way_77.html
Bodies from crashed AirAsia plane arrive in Indonesian city-Reuters-By Wilda Asmarini and Fergus Jensen-DEC 31,14-YAHOONEWS
PANGKALAN BUN/SURABAYA, Indonesia (Reuters) - The first two bodies from the AirAsia plane that crashed off the coast of Borneo arrived on Wednesday in the Indonesian city of Surabaya, where relatives have gathered to await news of their loved ones.Rescuers believe they have found the plane on the sea floor off Borneo, after sonar detected a large, dark object beneath waters near where debris and bodies were found on the surface.Ships and planes had been scouring the Java Sea for Flight QZ8501 since Sunday, when it lost contact during bad weather about 40 minutes into its flight from Surabaya to Singapore.Seven bodies have been recovered from the sea, some fully clothed, which could indicate the Airbus A320-200 was intact when it hit the water. That would support a theory that it suffered an aerodynamic stall.Tatang Zaenudin, an official with Indonesia's search and rescue agency, said earlier that one of the bodies had been found wearing a life jacket.But he later said no victim had been recovered with a life jacket on."We found a body at 8.20 a.m. and a life jacket at 10.32 a.m. so there was a time difference. This is the latest information we have," he told Reuters.Two bodies, in coffins bedecked with flowers and marked 001 and 002, arrived by an air force plane in Surabaya.Most of the 162 people on board were Indonesians. No survivors have been found.
HUNT FOR "BLACK BOX"
Hernanto, of the search and rescue agency in Surabaya, said rescuers believed they had found the plane on the sea bed with a sonar scan in water 30-50 meters (100-165 feet) deep.The black box flight data and cockpit voice recorder have yet to be found.Authorities in Surabaya were making preparations to receive and identify bodies, including arranging 130 ambulances to take victims to a police hospital and collecting DNA from relatives."We are praying it is the plane so the evacuation can be done quickly," Hernanto said.Strong wind and waves hampered the search and with visibility at less than a kilometer (half a mile), the air operation was called off in the afternoon."The weather today was really challenging in the field, with waves up to 5 meters high, wind reaching 40 km per hour (and) heavy rain, especially in the search area," Fransiskus Bambang Soelistyo, the head of the search and rescue agency, told reporters in Surabaya.He added that the plane's whereabouts had not yet been confirmed and so the search for it would continue. Indonesian President Joko Widodo said his priority was retrieving the bodies.Relatives, many of whom collapsed in grief when they saw the first grim television pictures confirming their fears on Tuesday, held prayers at a crisis center at Surabaya airport.
"UNBELIEVABLY" STEEP CLIMB
The plane was traveling at 32,000 feet (9,753 meters) and had asked to fly at 38,000 feet to avoid bad weather. When air traffic controllers granted permission for a rise to 34,000 feet a few minutes later, they received no response.The pilots did not issue a distress signal.A source close to the probe into what happened said radar data appeared to show that the aircraft made an "unbelievably" steep climb before it crashed, possibly pushing it beyond the Airbus A320's limits."So far, the numbers taken by the radar are unbelievably high. This rate of climb is very high, too high. It appears to be beyond the performance envelope of the aircraft," he said.The source, who declined to be named, added that more information was needed to come to a firm conclusion.Online discussion among pilots has centered on unconfirmed secondary radar data from Malaysia that suggested the aircraft was climbing at a speed of 353 knots, about 100 knots too slow, and that it might have stalled.The Indonesian captain, a former air force fighter pilot, had 6,100 flying hours under his belt and the plane last underwent maintenance in mid-November, said the airline, which is 49 percent owned by Malaysia-based budget carrier AirAsia.Three airline disasters involving Malaysian-affiliated carriers in less than a year have dented confidence in the country's aviation industry and spooked travelers.Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 went missing in March on a trip from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew and has not been found. On July 17, the same airline's Flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine, killing all 298 people on board.On board Flight QZ8501 were 155 Indonesians, three South Koreans, and one person each from Singapore, Malaysia and Britain. The co-pilot was French.The AirAsia group, including affiliates in Thailand, the Philippines and India, had not suffered a crash since its Malaysian budget operations began in 2002.(Additional reporting by Gayatri Suroyo, Kanupriya Kapoor, Michael Taylor and Charlotte Greenfield in JAKARTA/SURABAYA, Jane Wardell in SYDNEY and Anshuman Daga in SINGAPORE; Writing by Mark Bendeich and Robert Birsel; Editing by Nick Macfie/Mike Collett-White/Susan Fenton)
Search area expanded in hunt for AirAsia plane-Associated Press-By TRISNADI MARJAN and ROBIN McDOWELL December 30, 2014 12:35 AM-YAHOONEWS
SURABAYA, Indonesia (AP) — With no sign of the missing AirAsia jetliner, dozens of ships and planes on Tuesday joined a widening international effort now covering huge swaths of Indonesian sea and land. A device that can detect underwater signals from the aircraft's black boxes was also on its way, more than two days after Flight 8501 vanished from radar.The United States announced it was sending the USS Sampson destroyer, joining at least 30 ships, 15 aircraft and seven helicopters in the search for the jet carrying 162 people, said Indonesia's Search and Rescue Agency chief Henry Bambang Soelistyo.A Chinese frigate was also on the way, while Singapore said it was sending two underwater beacon detectors to try to detect pings from the plane's all-important cockpit voice and flight data recorders. Malaysia, Australia and Thailand also are involved in the search.The plane vanished Sunday halfway into what should have been a two-hour hop from Surabaya, Indonesia, to Singapore. Officials saw little reason to believe the flight met anything but a grim fate.Based on the plane's last known coordinates, the aircraft probably crashed into the water and "is at the bottom of the sea," Soelistyo said Monday.It is believed to have crashed into Indonesia's Java Sea, a busy shipping lane where water on average is only 45 meters (150 feet) deep, but broad aerial surveys so far have turned up no firm evidence of the missing Airbus A320-200.On Monday, searchers made various sightings they thought might be related to the plane, but by Tuesday all had been dismissed.Soelistyo said an Indonesian navy ship reached the spot where a military craft reported two oil patches in the Java Sea east of Belitung island. It was not jet fuel, or even oil, but coral."They were just shadows of two wide shapes of coral clusters that when seen from the air looked like oil spills," he said.The search has expanded to include not only the sea but nearby land. As the sun rose Tuesday over Pangkalan Bun on the western part of Kalimantan, two Indonesian helicopters flew over the island looking for any sign of wreckage. Two other copters were hundreds of kilometers east over the smaller islands of Bangka and Belitung."Until now, we have not yet found any signal or indication of the plane's whereabouts," Soelistyo told The Associated Press, adding that fishermen from Belitung island were also helping.The AirAsia pilots had been worried about the weather on Sunday and had sought permission to climb above threatening clouds, but were denied due to heavy air traffic. Minutes later, the jet was gone from the radar without issuing a distress signal.Pilots rely on sophisticated weather-radar systems that include a dashboard display of storms and clouds, as well as reports from other crews, to steer around dangerous weather, and it's unlikely that alone would cause the plane to crash."A lot more information is available to pilots in the cockpit about weather" than ever, said Deborah Hersman, former chairman of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board. But the technology has limits and sometimes information about storms "can be a little bit stale."The suspected crash caps an astonishingly tragic year for air travel in Southeast Asia, and Malaysia in particular. Malaysia-based AirAsia's loss comes on top of the mystery surround Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in March with 239 people aboard, and the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in July over Ukraine, which killed all 298 passengers and crew.Nearly all the passengers and crew are Indonesians, who are frequent visitors to Singapore, particularly on holidays.Ruth Natalia Puspitasari, who would have turned 26 on Monday, was among them. Her father, Suyanto, sat with his wife, who was puffy-eyed and coughing, near the family crisis center at Surabaya's airport."I don't want to experience the same thing with what happened with Malaysia Airlines," he said as his wife wept. "It could be a long suffering."Few believe this search will be as perplexing as the ongoing one for Flight 370, which remains a mystery. Authorities suspect the plane was deliberately diverted by someone on board and ultimately lost in a remote area of the Indian Ocean that's thousands of feet deep. Flight 8501 vanished over a heavily traveled sea that is relatively shallow, with no sign of foul play.The captain, Iryanto, who like many Indonesians uses a single name, had more than 20,000 flying hours, AirAsia said.People who knew Iryanto recalled that he was an experienced military pilot, flying F-16 fighters before shifting to commercial aviation. His French co-pilot, Remi Plesel, had been in Indonesia three years and loved to fly, his sister, Renee, told France's RTL radio."He told me that things were going well, that he'd had a good Christmas. He was happy. The rains were starting," she said. "The weather was bad."___McDowell reported from Jakarta. Associated Press writers Ali Kotarumalos, Niniek Karmini and Margie Mason in Jakarta, Chris Brummitt in Singapore, Joan Lowy in Austin, Texas, Scott Mayerowitz in New York, David Koenig in Dallas and Lori Hinnant in Paris contributed to this report.
AirAsia victim with life jacket raises new questions about plane's last moments-Reuters-By Fergus Jensen and Gayatri Suroyo-dec 31,14-yahoonews
PANGKALAN BUN/SURABAYA, Indonesia (Reuters) - A body recovered on Wednesday from the crashed AirAsia plane was wearing a life jacket, an Indonesian search and rescue official said, raising new questions about how the disaster unfolded.Rescuers believe they have found the plane on the ocean floor off Borneo, after sonar detected a large, dark object beneath waters near where debris and bodies were found on the surface.Ships and planes had been scouring the Java Sea for Flight QZ8501 since Sunday, when it lost contact during bad weather about 40 minutes into its flight from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore.Seven bodies have been recovered from the sea, some fully clothed, which could indicate the Airbus A320-200 was intact when it hit the water. That would support a theory that it suffered an aerodynamic stall.The fact that one person put on a life jacket suggests those on board had time before the aircraft hit the water, or before it sank.And yet the pilots did not issue a distress signal. The plane disappeared after it asked for permission to fly higher to avoid bad weather."This morning, we recovered a total of four bodies and one of them was wearing a life jacket," Tatang Zaenudin, an official with the search and rescue agency, told Reuters.He declined to speculate on what the find might mean.A pilot who works for a Gulf carrier said the life jacket indicated the cause of the crash was not "catastrophic failure". Instead, the plane could have stalled and then come down, possibly because its instruments iced up and gave the pilots inaccurate readings."There was time. It means the thing didn't just fall out of the sky," said the pilot, who declined to be identified.He said it could take a minute for a plane to come down from 30,000 feet and the pilots could have experienced "tunnel vision ... too overloaded" to send a distress call."The first train of thought when you get into a situation like that is to fly the aircraft."Most of those on board were Indonesians. No survivors have been found.Hernanto, head of the search and rescue agency in Surabaya, said rescuers believed they had found the plane on the sea bed with a sonar scan in water 30-50 meters (100-165 feet) deep. The black box flight data and cockpit voice recorder has yet to be found.Authorities in Surabaya were making preparations to receive and identify bodies, including arranging 130 ambulances to take victims to a police hospital and collecting DNA from relatives."We are praying it is the plane so the evacuation can be done quickly," Hernanto said.Strong wind and waves hampered the search and with visibility at less than a kilometer (half a mile), the air operation was called off in the afternoon."We are all standing by," Dwi Putranto, heading the air force search effort in Pangalan Bun on Borneo, told Reuters."If we want to evacuate bodies from the water, it's too difficult. The waves are huge and it's raining."Indonesian President Joko Widodo said his priority was retrieving the bodies.Relatives, many of whom collapsed in grief when they saw the first grim television pictures confirming their fears on Tuesday, held prayers at a crisis center at Surabaya airport.AirAsia Chief Executive Tony Fernandes has described the crash as his "worst nightmare".
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The plane was traveling at 32,000 feet (9,753 meters) and had asked to fly at 38,000 feet. When air traffic controllers granted permission for a rise to 34,000 feet a few minutes later, they received no response.Online discussion among pilots has centered on unconfirmed secondary radar data from Malaysia that suggested the aircraft was climbing at a speed of 353 knots, about 100 knots too slow, and that it might have stalled. Investigators are focusing initially on whether the crew took too long to request permission to climb, or could have ascended on their own initiative earlier, said a source close to the inquiry, adding that poor weather could have played a part as well.The Indonesian captain, a former air force fighter pilot, had 6,100 flying hours under his belt and the plane last underwent maintenance in mid-November, said the airline, which is 49 percent owned by Malaysia-based budget carrier AirAsia.Three airline disasters involving Malaysian-affiliated carriers in less than a year have dented confidence in the country's aviation industry and spooked travelers.Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 went missing in March on a trip from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew and has not been found. On July 17, the same airline's Flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine, killing all 298 people on board.On board Flight QZ8501 were 155 Indonesians, three South Koreans, and one person each from Singapore, Malaysia and Britain. The co-pilot was French.The AirAsia group, including affiliates in Thailand, the Philippines and India, had not suffered a crash since its Malaysian budget operations began in 2002.(Additional reporting by Cindy Silviana, Charlotte Greenfield and Michael Taylor in JAKARTA/SURABAYA/PANGKALAN BUN, Jane Wardell in SYDNEY and Anshuman Daga in SINGAPORE; Writing by Mark Bendeich and Robert Birsel; Editing by Nick Macfie)
UPDATES-DEC 31,14-06:00AM
Reddit in small type-Indonesia's search and rescue agency Basarnas has found wreckage from AirAsia flight QZ8501 at the bottom of sea, according to CNN.Search and rescue official Hernato said sonar equipment detected the plane, but it was not clear whether it is in one piece or broken up, CNN reported.Another body recovered bring the total to seven bodies so far, reports Kompas TV.All 7 bodies are still intact. 4 male, 3 female, 1 child.BREAKING: 1 man among 7 bodies recovered was wearing a life jacket, says #QZ8501 search chief.Singapore's manpower ministry has confirmed that at least three of the passengers of AirAsia Flight 8501 were employed in Singapore.1am-I can confirm, the plane wreckage hasn't been found until now," says Indo search and rescue chief at a press conference.ONE FAMILY MEMBER TOLD CNN THAT HE AND ALL THE FAMILY MEMBERS WERE TOLD THE PLANE WAS DISCOVERED BY SONAR ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JAVA SEA. BREAKING: 2 bodies have arrived at #QZ8501 holding area in Pangkalan Bun.#AirAsia #QZ8501: About 90 divers are out there but rough seas preventing them from going in, says rescue mission coordinator.Strong waves have pushed bodies in the sea about 50 km east from yesterday, said officials.2:10am-The fuselage of QZ8501 seems to be upside-down on the ocean floor in 24m to 30m of water.: officials.3 bodies have been identified.Singapore has offered two more Navy vessels for use in the search and recovery of AirAsia flight QZ8501.Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen said on Wednesday that Singapore had offered to send a Mine Counter-Measure Vessel, which has underwater sonar and a remotely operated vehicle, and the Remus, which is an autonomous underwater vehicle. - Straits Times.2 bodies being flown to #Surabaya are a female and young male.The news on one of the local TV channel (Indosiar) said that the Philippine Consulate visited the Crisis Center today to confirm 2 passenger names. No explanation on what this means thought.4am-Due to bad weather, the evacuation rescue is stopped momentarily.4am-CNN just had footage of two coffins being led in a procession.Seems that the 2 bodies have finally arrived in Juanda International Airport (Watching MetroTV). Victim's relatives is going to be transported to the new Crisis Center (Hospital,its Bhayangkara Hospital ).Two Australian defence aircraft, sent to Indonesia to help in the AirAsia flight hunt, are returning home as the operation turns to a recovery mission.The two Orions left Darwin yesterday after the federal government offered assistance to Indonesian authorities. Indonesian authorities have advised the two Australian aircraft are no longer required, the Australian Defence Force (ADF) confirmed in a statement. "The ADF will continue to maintain two liaison officers at Indonesia's National Search and Rescue Agency (BASARNAS) and the Australian Defence Force stands ready to provide further assistance," the statement read. "Our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of the victims at this difficult time." A New Zealand Air Force P3 Orion had also been deployed to Indonesia to assist with the search, while the United States sent the warship USS Sampson.4:55am-JUST IN: Two bodies retrieved from #QZ8501 search area have arrived in Surabaya.None of the bodies were wearing life jackets: Indonesia official .5:43am-JUST IN: @AirAsia Group CEO @tonyfernandes confirms main wreckage of #QZ8501 has not been found NOW THERE SAYING THE PLANE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND.I GUESS THIS SONAR MUST HAVE SCANNED A OLD PLANE THAT CRASHED OR SOMETHING.WE ARE GETTING MIXED SIGNALS WITH THIS SONAR DISCOVERING THE PLANE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JAVA SEA OR NOT.Crowded skies in Southeast Asia put pressure on pilots, air traffic control.CNN IS STILL REPORTING THE OBJECTS ON THE SEA BED FLOOR BELIEVED FROM FLIGHT QZ 8501-A320-200.EVEN THOUGH TONY FERNANDES THE OWNER OF AIRASIA SAYS THE PLANE HAS NOT BEEN DISCOVERED YET ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JAVA SEA.
UPDATES-DEC 30,14-11:07PM
INDONESIA HAS FOUND WERE THE LOCATION OF THE PLANE IS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JAVA SEA.AND REPORTS SAY IT MIGHT POSSIBLY BE UPSIDE DOWN.AND SO FAR 6 BODIES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP INCLUDING ONE WOMEN STEWARDESS. THE SONAR HAS SPOTTED THE PLANE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JAVA SEA.
Sonar detects wreckage from AirAsia QZ8501-6 bodies -- 3 men, 3 women -- have been recovered so far-Author: By Jethro Mullen, Josh Levs and Catherine E. Shoichet CNN-Published On: Dec 30 2014 12:12:24 AM CST
Indonesian searchers using sonar equipment have located wreckage from AirAsia Flight QZ8501 at the bottom of the Java Sea, a search and rescue official told CNN on Wednesday. At the moment, they still don't know if it's in one piece or broken up, said the official, Hernato, who goes by one name.
Divers, ships and aircraft began a new search Wednesday in the waters off Indonesia, a day after spotting the first signs of debris from AirAsia Flight QZ8501.The grim discovery of wreckage from the missing plane and several bodies dealt a heartbreaking blow to families whose loved ones were lost.Debris was found 100-200 kilometers (60-120 miles) from the aircraft's last known location over the Java Sea, Indonesia's search and rescue agency said.Six bodies -- three men and three women -- have been recovered so far, Indonesian search and rescue chief Bambang Soelistyo said Wednesday. One of the females found was wearing a flight attendant's uniform, Soelistyo said.Now search teams are homing in on the area near where the debris was found, looking for bodies and parts of the plane, including its so-called black boxes. Those could help investigators determine what went wrong on the flight, which lost contact with air traffic controllers on Sunday with 162 people aboard.Sonar equipment is searching the bottom of the sea, 40 to 50 meters (131 to 164 feet) below the water's surface, according to SB Supriyadi, the search agency's director of operations.Dozens of ambulances were lined up in the Indonesian city of Surabaya, ready to carry any bodies recovered.The search isn't easy; heavy winds and cloudy weather could affect visibility and make scanning the water more difficult.On Tuesday, searchers spotted a shadow that looked like the plane's "skeleton," Supriyadi said, but strong currents have so far stopped their efforts to locate it again on Wednesday.As families watched a live news conference Tuesday about the discovery of the debris and saw video of a helicopter lowering a diver to what appeared to be a floating body, some people fainted. Stretchers were brought into the room.Family members burst into tears, dabbing their eyes as officials passed out tissues. Some sat with their eyes full of tears, hands covering their mouths or heads buried in their hands. Others had phones jammed against their ears."Everyone became hysterical, especially the mothers. One mother even blacked out," said Maria Endang Wirasmi, whose daughter, son-in-law and two grand children were on the flight.Her husband, Imam Sampurno, said he was relieved the plane had been found." We hope that our children will be saved by a miracle," he said.AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes told reporters he hoped there was "at least some closure" for families."My heart is filled with sadness for all the families involved in QZ 8501," he tweeted. "On behalf of AirAsia my condolences to all. Words cannot express how sorry I am."
Flight 8501 was operated by AirAsia's Indonesian affiliate.Military crew spotted an object's shadow
Soelistyo, the head of Indonesia's search and rescue agency, said the debris was discovered when a crew on a military aircraft spotted the shadow of an object that looked like a plane in the water off the coast of Indonesia's Central Kalimantan province on Borneo.Further searching found floating objects believed to be the bodies of passengers, and then what appeared to be an emergency exit of the plane. Officials sent other search teams racing to the area.Several nations are contributing resources to the effort, including the United States. The U.S. Navy destroyer USS Sampson arrived Tuesday.The USS Fort Worth is also being prepared to deploy from Singapore, Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby said. It "can be ready to sail in a day or two to get on station and can be there very quickly," he said.The United States is also preparing maritime patrol aircraft that could help, he said.The flight, which was lost Sunday on its way to Singapore, was carrying 155 passengers and seven crew members. The overwhelming majority were Indonesians. There were also citizens of Britain, France, Malaysia, Singapore and South Korea.Search and rescue teams are diverting all their resources to where the debris is, in the Karimata Strait, about 110 nautical miles southwest of the Indonesian city of Pangkalan Bun, AirAsia said.
Unanswered questions
Fernandes said the focus for now must remain on the recovery effort, and no sweeping changes were planned for the airline, which has 1,000 flights a day. "But rest assured," he said, that once the investigation is done, if "there are things we need to change, that we will change it."The Airbus A320-200 lost contact with air traffic control early Sunday shortly after the pilot requested permission to turn and climb to a higher altitude because of bad weather, according to Indonesian officials.Authorities mounted a huge effort to find the aircraft, mapping out a search zone covering 156,000 square kilometers.Questions remain about why Flight 8501 lost contact with air traffic control and what happened afterward.Some experts have said the aircraft might have experienced an aerodynamic stall because of a lack of speed or from flying at too sharp an angle to get enough lift.Analysts have also suggested the pilots might not have been getting information from onboard systems about the plane's position or that rain or hail from thunderstorms in the area could have damaged the engines.The key to understanding what happened is likely to be contained in the aircraft's flight recorders."Until we get the black boxes, we won't know what's going on with the engines," said Bill Savage, a former pilot with 30 years of experience.
Bad weather hampers search for AirAsia wreckage after debris, bodies found-Reuters-By Wilda Asmarini and Cindy Silviana-DEC 30,14-YAHOONEWS
SURABAYA, Indonesia/JAKARTA (Reuters) - Ships and planes resumed the search for wreckage, bodies and black boxes of a doomed AirAsia plane on Wednesday after Indonesian rescuers found several bodies and debris floating in shallow waters off the coast of Borneo.However, 2-3 meters (6-9 ft) waves and winds prevented divers from searching the crash zone for the sunken remains of Flight QZ8501, which had 162 people on board when it vanished on Sunday about 40 minutes into its flight from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore.Aviation experts believe that, weather permitting, the fuselage may be easily found by divers as the aircraft probably only broke up when it hit the water.Searchers found three bodies on Wednesday morning, including a flight attendant still wearing her AirAsia uniform, bringing the total to six so far, said the head of the search and rescue agency, Fransiskus Bambang Soelistyo.Fully clothed bodies could also indicate the plane was intact when it hit the water and support a theory that the Airbus A320-200 suffered an aerodynamic stall and plunged into the sea."The fact that the debris appears fairly contained suggests the aircraft broke up when it hit the water, rather than in the air," said Neil Hansford, a former pilot and chairman of consultancy firm Strategic Aviation Solutions.Indonesia AirAsia Flight QZ8501 lost contact with air traffic control early on Sunday during bad weather. The plane was carrying mostly Indonesians. No survivors have been found.Indonesian President Joko Widodo said his priority was getting bodies off the bottom of the Karimata Strait in the Java Sea, where rescuers retrieved a plane door and other debris on Tuesday, so victims could be identified."I feel a deep loss over this disaster and pray for the families to be given fortitude and strength," Widodo said in Surabaya on Tuesday after grim images of the scene in the Java Sea were broadcast on television.AirAsia Chief Executive Tony Fernandes has described the crash as his "worst nightmare".Widodo said AirAsia would pay an immediate advance of money to relatives, many of whom collapsed in grief when they saw the television pictures of debris and a body.The United States said its destroyer USS Sampson and combat ship USS Fort Worth were awaiting instructions from the Indonesian search command on the recovery operation. Singapore said it was sending two underwater beacon detectors to try to pick up pings from the black boxes, which contain cockpit voice and flight data recorders.About 30 ships and 21 aircraft from Indonesia, Australia, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea and the United States have been involved in the search.
NO DISTRESS CALL
The plane, which did not issue a distress signal, disappeared after its pilot failed to get permission to fly higher to avoid bad weather because of heavy air traffic.It was traveling at 32,000 feet (9,753 meters) and had asked to fly at 38,000 feet. When air traffic controllers granted permission for a rise to 34,000 feet a few minutes later, they received no response from the aircraft.Online discussion among pilots has centered on unconfirmed secondary radar data from Malaysia that suggested the aircraft was climbing at a speed of 353 knots, about 100 knots too slow, and that it might have stalled.Investigators are focusing initially on whether the crew took too long to request permission to climb, or could have ascended on their own initiative earlier, said a source close to the inquiry, adding that poor weather could have played a part as well.A Qantas pilot with 25 years of experience flying in the region said the discovery of the debris field relatively close to the last known radar plot of the plane pointed to an aerodynamic stall, most likely due to bad weather. One possibility is that the plane's instruments iced up in a tropical thunderstorm, giving the pilots inaccurate readings.The lack of a distress call indicated the pilots may have realized too late they were in trouble and were too busy struggling to control the aircraft to issue a call, the Qantas pilot said.The Indonesian pilot, a former air force fighter pilot with 6,100 flying hours under his belt, was experienced and the plane last underwent maintenance in mid-November, said the airline, which is 49 percent owned by Malaysia-based budget carrier AirAsia.Three airline disasters involving Malaysian-affiliated carriers in less than a year have dented confidence in the country's aviation industry and spooked travelers across the region.Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 went missing in March on a trip from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew and has not been found. On July 17, the same airline's Flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine, killing all 298 people on board.On board Flight QZ8501 were 155 Indonesians, three South Koreans, and one person each from Singapore, Malaysia and Britain. The co-pilot was French.The AirAsia group, including affiliates in Thailand, the Philippines and India, had not suffered a crash since its Malaysian budget operations began in 2002.(Additional reporting by Fergus Jensen, Wilda Asmarini, Charlotte Greenfield, Fransiska Nangoy, Cindy Silviana, Kanupriya Kapoor, Michael Taylor, Nilufar Rizki and Siva Govindasamy in JAKARTA/SURABAYA, Al-Zaquan Amer Hamzah and Praveen Menon in KUALA LUMPUR, Saeed Azhar, Rujun Shen and Anshuman Daga in SINGAPORE, Jane Wardell in SYDNEY, Andrew Callus and Tim Hepher in PARIS; Writing by Jane Wardell, Mark Bendeich; Editing by Michael Perry, Robert Birsel)
QZ8501 tragedy rekindles pain for MH370 relatives-AFP | Updated: December 31, 2014-astro awani
QZ8501 tragedy rekindles pain for MH370 relatives-BEIJING: Tearful relatives of those on board missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370 said Tuesday their torment has been awakened anew by the AirAsia loss in Indonesia, nine months into their nightmare."It is just like what happened nine months ago when I heard the news of MH370," said Steven Wang, whose 57-year-old mother was on the flight which remains one of the biggest aviation mysteries ever."I can feel the desperation that the next-of-kin are suffering now. It is terrible. It is horrible," he said.Wang emerged as one of the most vociferous campaigners for answers on how MH370 went missing on March 8, one hour into a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.An unofficial leader of hundreds of Chinese relatives who packed into often rowdy meetings with airline officials in the weeks after the disappearance, Wang was a sombre shadow of his former self after months of anguish."Most of the time now we are asking for information, but they say they have nothing," he said, with a dejected, weary tone.Two-thirds of the 239 people on board the missing Boeing 777 are Chinese citizens.A vast multi-national search has failed to find any sign of wreckage of MH370.On Tuesday authorities looking for AirAsia flight QZ8501 -- also owned by a Malaysian airline -- said they had found bodies, the shadow of a plane and debris in the sea off Indonesia.Selamat Omar, whose son Mohamad Khairul Amri Selamat was on MH370, said the news on AirAsia would provide some solace to victims' families."It looks like there could be no survivors after the QZ8501 crashed into the sea. I praise the Indonesian authorities and neighbouring countries for finding the plane in less than 50 hours after the plane vanished," he said."Now the victims' families can console themselves and give the victims a proper burial. The families can now have a closure and have a peace of mind which I am dying for."For other families of MH370, coping with their personal nightmare has filled the days since the plane vanished."Our entire life is a mess now," said Xu Jinghong, whose 65-year-old mother Liu Fengying was one of 153 Chinese passengers who failed to return home."I lost 10 kilogrammes (22 pounds) in weight, I couldn’t sleep well and don’t dare to see photos of my mother or think about her," she added, her voice cracking with emotion.
'Flood of emotion'
The disappearance of QZ8501 off Indonesia on Sunday sparked deep personal reflection on the plight of the relatives of the 162 people on board."I empathise with them because I’ve been there too," Xu said softly. "I want to tell them to take care of themselves."Xu spoke to AFP from her Beijing home as she welcomed another MH370 relative Dai Shuqin, whose younger sister Dai Shulin was on the plane, along with three generations of her family.Dai has channelled her grief into seeking answers from both Malaysia Airlines and the Chinese government over what happened to the jet.She regularly visits a "support centre" which was set up near Beijing airport after Malaysia Airlines stopped paying for families to attend meetings at the Lido Hotel in the city."I still have hope -- always -- as long as there’s no evidence to show that they are dead," said Dai, explaining why she continues her seemingly futile wait for answers."I won’t give up," the 61-year-old added in determined tones, but in a sentence interrupted by tears."I have experienced so much pain and hardship, and I have worked so hard for answers."American Sarah Bajc, whose partner Philip Wood was on MH370, told of the horror she felt learning another jet had vanished, a moment she said to herself: "Oh my God -- it has happened again."Bajc and Wood previously lived in Beijing, but were planning a life together in Kuala Lumpur before the plane's disappearance.Speaking from the Malaysian capital, she likened her emotions on hearing about MH370 with the loss of both the AirAsia jet and MH17, another Malaysia Airlines fight that went down in strife-torn eastern Ukraine in July with 298 people on board."You just instantly start to shake because all that flood of emotion of what we went through on March 8 all comes back," she said."You can't even control it. It's impossible. It is just a physical response.""Then you start thinking what those poor families are going through and you think 'Oh my God' -- nobody has to go through that."Read more at: http://english.astroawani.com/news/show/qz8501-tragedy-rekindles-pain-mh370-relatives-51235?cp
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http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2014/12/airasia-flight-qz-8501-missing-on-way_30.html (D-3)
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2014/12/airasia-flight-qz-8501-missing-on-way_29.html (D-2)
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2014/12/airasia-flight-qz-8501-missing-on-way.html (D-1A)
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QZ 8501 A320-200 DEMENTIONS AND DATA
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UPDATES-DEC 31,14-11:00PM
Reddit small type from indonesia-4:10PM-A vigil has been held in the Indonesian city of Surabaya for the victims of the AirAsia Flight QZ8501 crash. Hundreds of residents and relatives of those on board lit candles and observed a minute's silence for the victims. Flight QZ8501, carrying 162 people from Surabaya to Singapore, disappeared on Sunday.
Improved weather raises hopes that divers can reach suspected AirAsia plane wreck-Reuters-By Fergus Jensen and Wilda Asmarini-dec 31,14-yahoonews
PANGKALAN BUN/SURABAYA, Indonesia (Reuters) - A break in bad weather on Thursday raised hopes that divers would be able to investigate what is believed to be the sunken wreck of an AirAsia jet off Borneo and retrieve the plane's black box that should explain the cause of the crash.The Airbus A320-200, carrying 162 people, fell from the sky while trying to climb above stormy weather early on Sunday, during a flight from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore. The pilots did not issue a distress signal.So far, at least eight bodies have been recovered from waters near where sonar has detected a large, dark object on the ocean floor, lying just 30-50 meters (100-165 feet) deep. But so far rough seas have prevented divers from investigating it."They will try again this morning," said Siahala Alamsyah, a naval officer involved in the search. He said that on Wednesday night, bad weather had prevented a team of 47 Indonesian Navy divers from even flying out to warships at the crash site.However, the skies over Pangkalan Bun air base near the site cleared on Thursday morning and the seas calmed, raising hopes that the search effort could be stepped up.The plane's black box flight data and cockpit voice recorder should help solve the mystery of the crash. Investigators are working on a theory that it went into aerodynamic stall as the pilot climbed steeply to avoid a storm.Bodies recovered from the Java Sea are being taken in numbered coffins to Surabaya, where relatives of the victims have gathered, for identification. Authorities have been collecting DNA from the relatives to help identify the bodies.Some of the bodies recovered so far have been fully clothed, including a flight attendant still wearing her AirAsia uniform. That could indicate the Airbus was intact when it hit the water and also support the aerodynamic stall theory.Most of the 162 people on board were Indonesians. No survivors have been found.
HUNT FOR "BLACK BOX"
Strong wind and waves hampered the search, and with visibility at less than a kilometer (half a mile), the air operation was called off on Wednesday afternoon.Speaking on Wednesday evening, Fransiskus Bambang Soelistyo, the head of the search and rescue agency, said the weather was "challenging in the field, with waves up to 5 meters high, wind reaching 40 km per hour (and) heavy rain, especially in the search area."Indonesian President Joko Widodo said his priority was retrieving the bodies.Relatives, many of whom collapsed in grief when they saw the first grim television pictures confirming their fears on Tuesday, held prayers at a crisis center at Surabaya airport.
"UNBELIEVABLY" STEEP CLIMB
The plane was traveling at 32,000 feet (9,753 meters) and had asked to fly at 38,000 feet to avoid bad weather. When air traffic controllers granted permission for a rise to 34,000 feet a few minutes later, they received no response.A source close to the probe into what happened said radar data appeared to show that the aircraft made an "unbelievably" steep climb before it crashed, possibly pushing it beyond the Airbus A320's limits."So far, the numbers taken by the radar are unbelievably high. This rate of climb is very high, too high. It appears to be beyond the performance envelope of the aircraft," he said.The source, who declined to be named, added that more information was needed to come to a firm conclusion.Online discussion among pilots has centered on unconfirmed secondary radar data from Malaysia that suggested the aircraft was climbing at a speed of 353 knots, about 100 knots too slow, and that it might have stalled.The Indonesian captain, a former air force fighter pilot, had 6,100 flying hours under his belt and the plane last underwent maintenance in mid-November, according to the airline, which is 49 percent owned by Malaysia- based budget carrier AirAsia.Three airline disasters involving Malaysian-affiliated carriers in less than a year have dented confidence in the country's aviation industry and spooked travelers.Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 went missing in March on a trip from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew and has not been found. On July 17, the same airline's Flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine, killing all 298 people on board.On board Flight QZ8501 were 155 Indonesians, three South Koreans, and one person each from Singapore, Malaysia and Britain. The co-pilot was French.The AirAsia group, including affiliates in Thailand, the Philippines and India, had not suffered a crash since its Malaysian budget operations began in 2002.(Additional reporting by Gayatri Suroyo, Kanupriya Kapoor, Michael Taylor and Charlotte Greenfield in JAKARTA/SURABAYA, Jane Wardell in SYDNEY and Anshuman Daga in SINGAPORE; Editing by Mark Bendeich and Ryan Woo)
UPDATES-DEC 31,14-12:45PM
4 MORE BODIES HAS BEEN DISCOVERED IN THE JAVA SEA.BRINING THE TOTAL FOUND AT 10.AND AS OF 7:30AM DEC 31,14.IT STILL HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED BY TONY FERNANDES THAT THE SONAR DID FIND THE MISSING PLANE IN THE JAVA SEA YET.ITS NOW 12:15PM AND ITS STILL NOT CONFIRMED THAT THEY HAVE FOUND THE PLACE BY SONAR WERE THE PLANE LIES IN THE JAVA SEA.THIS IS TURNING INTO ANOTHER MH 370 AND MALAYSIAN THROWING ALL KINDS OF STUFF AT THE MEDIA.THEN ITS FALSE LEADS OR JUST COMPL ETELY MADE UP. SO NOW WE GOTTA PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO ANYTHING INDONESIA SAYS.IN CASE THEY ARE TURNING THIS INTO A WILD GOOSE CHACE LIKE THE MALAYSIAN PRIME MINISTER DID WITH THE MH370 SITUATION.IN FACT THE MH370 SITUATION AFTER 10 MONTHS IS STILL NOT COMPLETE.reddit updates in small type from indonesia.3 more #QZ8501 bodies recovered from seas off coast of Kalimantan, bringing total to at least 10, Malaysia Naval Chief.There's a miscommunication. The number of bodies recovered is 6 not 7.Victim's relatives who stayed in Hotel Halogen got 'kicked out', their bags are taken out of their room. Air Asia said that there is a miscommunication problem and that they will quickly look for a new hotel for them.OH NO NOW THE VICTIMS FAMILIES ARE GETTING BOOTED FROM THEIR HOTEL ROOMS.THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED TO THE MH370 FAMILIES. THIS IS TURNING INTO ANOTHER MH370 ALL OVER AGAIN.SO SAD FOR THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE INNOCENT VICTIMS OF THE PLANE CRASH.2 more vessels to assist in #QZ801 search, says Defence Minister.Day 4 of #QZ8501 search focused on 4 sectors of 28x56 nautical miles: Malaysia @ChiefofNavy.
UPDATES-DEC 31,14-06:20AM
7 BODIES HAVE BEEN RECOVERED.AND ITS 6:20PM IN INDONESIA AND THE WEATHER IS TO BAD TO GO TO THE PLANE SITE AND START RECOVERING BODIES.THERE SAYING THE PLANE MIGHT BE UPSIDE DOWN ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JAVA SEA.AND THEIR SAYING-BECAUSE THERES ONLY BEEN 7 BODIES RECOVERED FROM THE QZ 8501-A320-200.THIS PROBABLY MEANS THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE ARE STILL TRAPPED INTO THEIR SEATS JUST LIKE I HAD A FEELING WITH MY PREDICTION ALSO IN D-3A OF MY SCINERIO OF HOW I THINK THE QZ 8501 CAME DOWN.
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Bodies from crashed AirAsia plane arrive in Indonesian city-Reuters-By Wilda Asmarini and Fergus Jensen-DEC 31,14-YAHOONEWS
PANGKALAN BUN/SURABAYA, Indonesia (Reuters) - The first two bodies from the AirAsia plane that crashed off the coast of Borneo arrived on Wednesday in the Indonesian city of Surabaya, where relatives have gathered to await news of their loved ones.Rescuers believe they have found the plane on the sea floor off Borneo, after sonar detected a large, dark object beneath waters near where debris and bodies were found on the surface.Ships and planes had been scouring the Java Sea for Flight QZ8501 since Sunday, when it lost contact during bad weather about 40 minutes into its flight from Surabaya to Singapore.Seven bodies have been recovered from the sea, some fully clothed, which could indicate the Airbus A320-200 was intact when it hit the water. That would support a theory that it suffered an aerodynamic stall.Tatang Zaenudin, an official with Indonesia's search and rescue agency, said earlier that one of the bodies had been found wearing a life jacket.But he later said no victim had been recovered with a life jacket on."We found a body at 8.20 a.m. and a life jacket at 10.32 a.m. so there was a time difference. This is the latest information we have," he told Reuters.Two bodies, in coffins bedecked with flowers and marked 001 and 002, arrived by an air force plane in Surabaya.Most of the 162 people on board were Indonesians. No survivors have been found.
HUNT FOR "BLACK BOX"
Hernanto, of the search and rescue agency in Surabaya, said rescuers believed they had found the plane on the sea bed with a sonar scan in water 30-50 meters (100-165 feet) deep.The black box flight data and cockpit voice recorder have yet to be found.Authorities in Surabaya were making preparations to receive and identify bodies, including arranging 130 ambulances to take victims to a police hospital and collecting DNA from relatives."We are praying it is the plane so the evacuation can be done quickly," Hernanto said.Strong wind and waves hampered the search and with visibility at less than a kilometer (half a mile), the air operation was called off in the afternoon."The weather today was really challenging in the field, with waves up to 5 meters high, wind reaching 40 km per hour (and) heavy rain, especially in the search area," Fransiskus Bambang Soelistyo, the head of the search and rescue agency, told reporters in Surabaya.He added that the plane's whereabouts had not yet been confirmed and so the search for it would continue. Indonesian President Joko Widodo said his priority was retrieving the bodies.Relatives, many of whom collapsed in grief when they saw the first grim television pictures confirming their fears on Tuesday, held prayers at a crisis center at Surabaya airport.
"UNBELIEVABLY" STEEP CLIMB
The plane was traveling at 32,000 feet (9,753 meters) and had asked to fly at 38,000 feet to avoid bad weather. When air traffic controllers granted permission for a rise to 34,000 feet a few minutes later, they received no response.The pilots did not issue a distress signal.A source close to the probe into what happened said radar data appeared to show that the aircraft made an "unbelievably" steep climb before it crashed, possibly pushing it beyond the Airbus A320's limits."So far, the numbers taken by the radar are unbelievably high. This rate of climb is very high, too high. It appears to be beyond the performance envelope of the aircraft," he said.The source, who declined to be named, added that more information was needed to come to a firm conclusion.Online discussion among pilots has centered on unconfirmed secondary radar data from Malaysia that suggested the aircraft was climbing at a speed of 353 knots, about 100 knots too slow, and that it might have stalled.The Indonesian captain, a former air force fighter pilot, had 6,100 flying hours under his belt and the plane last underwent maintenance in mid-November, said the airline, which is 49 percent owned by Malaysia-based budget carrier AirAsia.Three airline disasters involving Malaysian-affiliated carriers in less than a year have dented confidence in the country's aviation industry and spooked travelers.Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 went missing in March on a trip from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew and has not been found. On July 17, the same airline's Flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine, killing all 298 people on board.On board Flight QZ8501 were 155 Indonesians, three South Koreans, and one person each from Singapore, Malaysia and Britain. The co-pilot was French.The AirAsia group, including affiliates in Thailand, the Philippines and India, had not suffered a crash since its Malaysian budget operations began in 2002.(Additional reporting by Gayatri Suroyo, Kanupriya Kapoor, Michael Taylor and Charlotte Greenfield in JAKARTA/SURABAYA, Jane Wardell in SYDNEY and Anshuman Daga in SINGAPORE; Writing by Mark Bendeich and Robert Birsel; Editing by Nick Macfie/Mike Collett-White/Susan Fenton)
Search area expanded in hunt for AirAsia plane-Associated Press-By TRISNADI MARJAN and ROBIN McDOWELL December 30, 2014 12:35 AM-YAHOONEWS
SURABAYA, Indonesia (AP) — With no sign of the missing AirAsia jetliner, dozens of ships and planes on Tuesday joined a widening international effort now covering huge swaths of Indonesian sea and land. A device that can detect underwater signals from the aircraft's black boxes was also on its way, more than two days after Flight 8501 vanished from radar.The United States announced it was sending the USS Sampson destroyer, joining at least 30 ships, 15 aircraft and seven helicopters in the search for the jet carrying 162 people, said Indonesia's Search and Rescue Agency chief Henry Bambang Soelistyo.A Chinese frigate was also on the way, while Singapore said it was sending two underwater beacon detectors to try to detect pings from the plane's all-important cockpit voice and flight data recorders. Malaysia, Australia and Thailand also are involved in the search.The plane vanished Sunday halfway into what should have been a two-hour hop from Surabaya, Indonesia, to Singapore. Officials saw little reason to believe the flight met anything but a grim fate.Based on the plane's last known coordinates, the aircraft probably crashed into the water and "is at the bottom of the sea," Soelistyo said Monday.It is believed to have crashed into Indonesia's Java Sea, a busy shipping lane where water on average is only 45 meters (150 feet) deep, but broad aerial surveys so far have turned up no firm evidence of the missing Airbus A320-200.On Monday, searchers made various sightings they thought might be related to the plane, but by Tuesday all had been dismissed.Soelistyo said an Indonesian navy ship reached the spot where a military craft reported two oil patches in the Java Sea east of Belitung island. It was not jet fuel, or even oil, but coral."They were just shadows of two wide shapes of coral clusters that when seen from the air looked like oil spills," he said.The search has expanded to include not only the sea but nearby land. As the sun rose Tuesday over Pangkalan Bun on the western part of Kalimantan, two Indonesian helicopters flew over the island looking for any sign of wreckage. Two other copters were hundreds of kilometers east over the smaller islands of Bangka and Belitung."Until now, we have not yet found any signal or indication of the plane's whereabouts," Soelistyo told The Associated Press, adding that fishermen from Belitung island were also helping.The AirAsia pilots had been worried about the weather on Sunday and had sought permission to climb above threatening clouds, but were denied due to heavy air traffic. Minutes later, the jet was gone from the radar without issuing a distress signal.Pilots rely on sophisticated weather-radar systems that include a dashboard display of storms and clouds, as well as reports from other crews, to steer around dangerous weather, and it's unlikely that alone would cause the plane to crash."A lot more information is available to pilots in the cockpit about weather" than ever, said Deborah Hersman, former chairman of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board. But the technology has limits and sometimes information about storms "can be a little bit stale."The suspected crash caps an astonishingly tragic year for air travel in Southeast Asia, and Malaysia in particular. Malaysia-based AirAsia's loss comes on top of the mystery surround Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in March with 239 people aboard, and the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in July over Ukraine, which killed all 298 passengers and crew.Nearly all the passengers and crew are Indonesians, who are frequent visitors to Singapore, particularly on holidays.Ruth Natalia Puspitasari, who would have turned 26 on Monday, was among them. Her father, Suyanto, sat with his wife, who was puffy-eyed and coughing, near the family crisis center at Surabaya's airport."I don't want to experience the same thing with what happened with Malaysia Airlines," he said as his wife wept. "It could be a long suffering."Few believe this search will be as perplexing as the ongoing one for Flight 370, which remains a mystery. Authorities suspect the plane was deliberately diverted by someone on board and ultimately lost in a remote area of the Indian Ocean that's thousands of feet deep. Flight 8501 vanished over a heavily traveled sea that is relatively shallow, with no sign of foul play.The captain, Iryanto, who like many Indonesians uses a single name, had more than 20,000 flying hours, AirAsia said.People who knew Iryanto recalled that he was an experienced military pilot, flying F-16 fighters before shifting to commercial aviation. His French co-pilot, Remi Plesel, had been in Indonesia three years and loved to fly, his sister, Renee, told France's RTL radio."He told me that things were going well, that he'd had a good Christmas. He was happy. The rains were starting," she said. "The weather was bad."___McDowell reported from Jakarta. Associated Press writers Ali Kotarumalos, Niniek Karmini and Margie Mason in Jakarta, Chris Brummitt in Singapore, Joan Lowy in Austin, Texas, Scott Mayerowitz in New York, David Koenig in Dallas and Lori Hinnant in Paris contributed to this report.
AirAsia victim with life jacket raises new questions about plane's last moments-Reuters-By Fergus Jensen and Gayatri Suroyo-dec 31,14-yahoonews
PANGKALAN BUN/SURABAYA, Indonesia (Reuters) - A body recovered on Wednesday from the crashed AirAsia plane was wearing a life jacket, an Indonesian search and rescue official said, raising new questions about how the disaster unfolded.Rescuers believe they have found the plane on the ocean floor off Borneo, after sonar detected a large, dark object beneath waters near where debris and bodies were found on the surface.Ships and planes had been scouring the Java Sea for Flight QZ8501 since Sunday, when it lost contact during bad weather about 40 minutes into its flight from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore.Seven bodies have been recovered from the sea, some fully clothed, which could indicate the Airbus A320-200 was intact when it hit the water. That would support a theory that it suffered an aerodynamic stall.The fact that one person put on a life jacket suggests those on board had time before the aircraft hit the water, or before it sank.And yet the pilots did not issue a distress signal. The plane disappeared after it asked for permission to fly higher to avoid bad weather."This morning, we recovered a total of four bodies and one of them was wearing a life jacket," Tatang Zaenudin, an official with the search and rescue agency, told Reuters.He declined to speculate on what the find might mean.A pilot who works for a Gulf carrier said the life jacket indicated the cause of the crash was not "catastrophic failure". Instead, the plane could have stalled and then come down, possibly because its instruments iced up and gave the pilots inaccurate readings."There was time. It means the thing didn't just fall out of the sky," said the pilot, who declined to be identified.He said it could take a minute for a plane to come down from 30,000 feet and the pilots could have experienced "tunnel vision ... too overloaded" to send a distress call."The first train of thought when you get into a situation like that is to fly the aircraft."Most of those on board were Indonesians. No survivors have been found.Hernanto, head of the search and rescue agency in Surabaya, said rescuers believed they had found the plane on the sea bed with a sonar scan in water 30-50 meters (100-165 feet) deep. The black box flight data and cockpit voice recorder has yet to be found.Authorities in Surabaya were making preparations to receive and identify bodies, including arranging 130 ambulances to take victims to a police hospital and collecting DNA from relatives."We are praying it is the plane so the evacuation can be done quickly," Hernanto said.Strong wind and waves hampered the search and with visibility at less than a kilometer (half a mile), the air operation was called off in the afternoon."We are all standing by," Dwi Putranto, heading the air force search effort in Pangalan Bun on Borneo, told Reuters."If we want to evacuate bodies from the water, it's too difficult. The waves are huge and it's raining."Indonesian President Joko Widodo said his priority was retrieving the bodies.Relatives, many of whom collapsed in grief when they saw the first grim television pictures confirming their fears on Tuesday, held prayers at a crisis center at Surabaya airport.AirAsia Chief Executive Tony Fernandes has described the crash as his "worst nightmare".
EXPERIENCED PILOT
The plane was traveling at 32,000 feet (9,753 meters) and had asked to fly at 38,000 feet. When air traffic controllers granted permission for a rise to 34,000 feet a few minutes later, they received no response.Online discussion among pilots has centered on unconfirmed secondary radar data from Malaysia that suggested the aircraft was climbing at a speed of 353 knots, about 100 knots too slow, and that it might have stalled. Investigators are focusing initially on whether the crew took too long to request permission to climb, or could have ascended on their own initiative earlier, said a source close to the inquiry, adding that poor weather could have played a part as well.The Indonesian captain, a former air force fighter pilot, had 6,100 flying hours under his belt and the plane last underwent maintenance in mid-November, said the airline, which is 49 percent owned by Malaysia-based budget carrier AirAsia.Three airline disasters involving Malaysian-affiliated carriers in less than a year have dented confidence in the country's aviation industry and spooked travelers.Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 went missing in March on a trip from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew and has not been found. On July 17, the same airline's Flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine, killing all 298 people on board.On board Flight QZ8501 were 155 Indonesians, three South Koreans, and one person each from Singapore, Malaysia and Britain. The co-pilot was French.The AirAsia group, including affiliates in Thailand, the Philippines and India, had not suffered a crash since its Malaysian budget operations began in 2002.(Additional reporting by Cindy Silviana, Charlotte Greenfield and Michael Taylor in JAKARTA/SURABAYA/PANGKALAN BUN, Jane Wardell in SYDNEY and Anshuman Daga in SINGAPORE; Writing by Mark Bendeich and Robert Birsel; Editing by Nick Macfie)
UPDATES-DEC 31,14-06:00AM
Reddit in small type-Indonesia's search and rescue agency Basarnas has found wreckage from AirAsia flight QZ8501 at the bottom of sea, according to CNN.Search and rescue official Hernato said sonar equipment detected the plane, but it was not clear whether it is in one piece or broken up, CNN reported.Another body recovered bring the total to seven bodies so far, reports Kompas TV.All 7 bodies are still intact. 4 male, 3 female, 1 child.BREAKING: 1 man among 7 bodies recovered was wearing a life jacket, says #QZ8501 search chief.Singapore's manpower ministry has confirmed that at least three of the passengers of AirAsia Flight 8501 were employed in Singapore.1am-I can confirm, the plane wreckage hasn't been found until now," says Indo search and rescue chief at a press conference.ONE FAMILY MEMBER TOLD CNN THAT HE AND ALL THE FAMILY MEMBERS WERE TOLD THE PLANE WAS DISCOVERED BY SONAR ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JAVA SEA. BREAKING: 2 bodies have arrived at #QZ8501 holding area in Pangkalan Bun.#AirAsia #QZ8501: About 90 divers are out there but rough seas preventing them from going in, says rescue mission coordinator.Strong waves have pushed bodies in the sea about 50 km east from yesterday, said officials.2:10am-The fuselage of QZ8501 seems to be upside-down on the ocean floor in 24m to 30m of water.: officials.3 bodies have been identified.Singapore has offered two more Navy vessels for use in the search and recovery of AirAsia flight QZ8501.Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen said on Wednesday that Singapore had offered to send a Mine Counter-Measure Vessel, which has underwater sonar and a remotely operated vehicle, and the Remus, which is an autonomous underwater vehicle. - Straits Times.2 bodies being flown to #Surabaya are a female and young male.The news on one of the local TV channel (Indosiar) said that the Philippine Consulate visited the Crisis Center today to confirm 2 passenger names. No explanation on what this means thought.4am-Due to bad weather, the evacuation rescue is stopped momentarily.4am-CNN just had footage of two coffins being led in a procession.Seems that the 2 bodies have finally arrived in Juanda International Airport (Watching MetroTV). Victim's relatives is going to be transported to the new Crisis Center (Hospital,its Bhayangkara Hospital ).Two Australian defence aircraft, sent to Indonesia to help in the AirAsia flight hunt, are returning home as the operation turns to a recovery mission.The two Orions left Darwin yesterday after the federal government offered assistance to Indonesian authorities. Indonesian authorities have advised the two Australian aircraft are no longer required, the Australian Defence Force (ADF) confirmed in a statement. "The ADF will continue to maintain two liaison officers at Indonesia's National Search and Rescue Agency (BASARNAS) and the Australian Defence Force stands ready to provide further assistance," the statement read. "Our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of the victims at this difficult time." A New Zealand Air Force P3 Orion had also been deployed to Indonesia to assist with the search, while the United States sent the warship USS Sampson.4:55am-JUST IN: Two bodies retrieved from #QZ8501 search area have arrived in Surabaya.None of the bodies were wearing life jackets: Indonesia official .5:43am-JUST IN: @AirAsia Group CEO @tonyfernandes confirms main wreckage of #QZ8501 has not been found NOW THERE SAYING THE PLANE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND.I GUESS THIS SONAR MUST HAVE SCANNED A OLD PLANE THAT CRASHED OR SOMETHING.WE ARE GETTING MIXED SIGNALS WITH THIS SONAR DISCOVERING THE PLANE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JAVA SEA OR NOT.Crowded skies in Southeast Asia put pressure on pilots, air traffic control.CNN IS STILL REPORTING THE OBJECTS ON THE SEA BED FLOOR BELIEVED FROM FLIGHT QZ 8501-A320-200.EVEN THOUGH TONY FERNANDES THE OWNER OF AIRASIA SAYS THE PLANE HAS NOT BEEN DISCOVERED YET ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JAVA SEA.
UPDATES-DEC 30,14-11:07PM
INDONESIA HAS FOUND WERE THE LOCATION OF THE PLANE IS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JAVA SEA.AND REPORTS SAY IT MIGHT POSSIBLY BE UPSIDE DOWN.AND SO FAR 6 BODIES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP INCLUDING ONE WOMEN STEWARDESS. THE SONAR HAS SPOTTED THE PLANE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JAVA SEA.
Sonar detects wreckage from AirAsia QZ8501-6 bodies -- 3 men, 3 women -- have been recovered so far-Author: By Jethro Mullen, Josh Levs and Catherine E. Shoichet CNN-Published On: Dec 30 2014 12:12:24 AM CST
Indonesian searchers using sonar equipment have located wreckage from AirAsia Flight QZ8501 at the bottom of the Java Sea, a search and rescue official told CNN on Wednesday. At the moment, they still don't know if it's in one piece or broken up, said the official, Hernato, who goes by one name.
Divers, ships and aircraft began a new search Wednesday in the waters off Indonesia, a day after spotting the first signs of debris from AirAsia Flight QZ8501.The grim discovery of wreckage from the missing plane and several bodies dealt a heartbreaking blow to families whose loved ones were lost.Debris was found 100-200 kilometers (60-120 miles) from the aircraft's last known location over the Java Sea, Indonesia's search and rescue agency said.Six bodies -- three men and three women -- have been recovered so far, Indonesian search and rescue chief Bambang Soelistyo said Wednesday. One of the females found was wearing a flight attendant's uniform, Soelistyo said.Now search teams are homing in on the area near where the debris was found, looking for bodies and parts of the plane, including its so-called black boxes. Those could help investigators determine what went wrong on the flight, which lost contact with air traffic controllers on Sunday with 162 people aboard.Sonar equipment is searching the bottom of the sea, 40 to 50 meters (131 to 164 feet) below the water's surface, according to SB Supriyadi, the search agency's director of operations.Dozens of ambulances were lined up in the Indonesian city of Surabaya, ready to carry any bodies recovered.The search isn't easy; heavy winds and cloudy weather could affect visibility and make scanning the water more difficult.On Tuesday, searchers spotted a shadow that looked like the plane's "skeleton," Supriyadi said, but strong currents have so far stopped their efforts to locate it again on Wednesday.As families watched a live news conference Tuesday about the discovery of the debris and saw video of a helicopter lowering a diver to what appeared to be a floating body, some people fainted. Stretchers were brought into the room.Family members burst into tears, dabbing their eyes as officials passed out tissues. Some sat with their eyes full of tears, hands covering their mouths or heads buried in their hands. Others had phones jammed against their ears."Everyone became hysterical, especially the mothers. One mother even blacked out," said Maria Endang Wirasmi, whose daughter, son-in-law and two grand children were on the flight.Her husband, Imam Sampurno, said he was relieved the plane had been found." We hope that our children will be saved by a miracle," he said.AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes told reporters he hoped there was "at least some closure" for families."My heart is filled with sadness for all the families involved in QZ 8501," he tweeted. "On behalf of AirAsia my condolences to all. Words cannot express how sorry I am."
Flight 8501 was operated by AirAsia's Indonesian affiliate.Military crew spotted an object's shadow
Soelistyo, the head of Indonesia's search and rescue agency, said the debris was discovered when a crew on a military aircraft spotted the shadow of an object that looked like a plane in the water off the coast of Indonesia's Central Kalimantan province on Borneo.Further searching found floating objects believed to be the bodies of passengers, and then what appeared to be an emergency exit of the plane. Officials sent other search teams racing to the area.Several nations are contributing resources to the effort, including the United States. The U.S. Navy destroyer USS Sampson arrived Tuesday.The USS Fort Worth is also being prepared to deploy from Singapore, Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby said. It "can be ready to sail in a day or two to get on station and can be there very quickly," he said.The United States is also preparing maritime patrol aircraft that could help, he said.The flight, which was lost Sunday on its way to Singapore, was carrying 155 passengers and seven crew members. The overwhelming majority were Indonesians. There were also citizens of Britain, France, Malaysia, Singapore and South Korea.Search and rescue teams are diverting all their resources to where the debris is, in the Karimata Strait, about 110 nautical miles southwest of the Indonesian city of Pangkalan Bun, AirAsia said.
Unanswered questions
Fernandes said the focus for now must remain on the recovery effort, and no sweeping changes were planned for the airline, which has 1,000 flights a day. "But rest assured," he said, that once the investigation is done, if "there are things we need to change, that we will change it."The Airbus A320-200 lost contact with air traffic control early Sunday shortly after the pilot requested permission to turn and climb to a higher altitude because of bad weather, according to Indonesian officials.Authorities mounted a huge effort to find the aircraft, mapping out a search zone covering 156,000 square kilometers.Questions remain about why Flight 8501 lost contact with air traffic control and what happened afterward.Some experts have said the aircraft might have experienced an aerodynamic stall because of a lack of speed or from flying at too sharp an angle to get enough lift.Analysts have also suggested the pilots might not have been getting information from onboard systems about the plane's position or that rain or hail from thunderstorms in the area could have damaged the engines.The key to understanding what happened is likely to be contained in the aircraft's flight recorders."Until we get the black boxes, we won't know what's going on with the engines," said Bill Savage, a former pilot with 30 years of experience.
Bad weather hampers search for AirAsia wreckage after debris, bodies found-Reuters-By Wilda Asmarini and Cindy Silviana-DEC 30,14-YAHOONEWS
SURABAYA, Indonesia/JAKARTA (Reuters) - Ships and planes resumed the search for wreckage, bodies and black boxes of a doomed AirAsia plane on Wednesday after Indonesian rescuers found several bodies and debris floating in shallow waters off the coast of Borneo.However, 2-3 meters (6-9 ft) waves and winds prevented divers from searching the crash zone for the sunken remains of Flight QZ8501, which had 162 people on board when it vanished on Sunday about 40 minutes into its flight from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore.Aviation experts believe that, weather permitting, the fuselage may be easily found by divers as the aircraft probably only broke up when it hit the water.Searchers found three bodies on Wednesday morning, including a flight attendant still wearing her AirAsia uniform, bringing the total to six so far, said the head of the search and rescue agency, Fransiskus Bambang Soelistyo.Fully clothed bodies could also indicate the plane was intact when it hit the water and support a theory that the Airbus A320-200 suffered an aerodynamic stall and plunged into the sea."The fact that the debris appears fairly contained suggests the aircraft broke up when it hit the water, rather than in the air," said Neil Hansford, a former pilot and chairman of consultancy firm Strategic Aviation Solutions.Indonesia AirAsia Flight QZ8501 lost contact with air traffic control early on Sunday during bad weather. The plane was carrying mostly Indonesians. No survivors have been found.Indonesian President Joko Widodo said his priority was getting bodies off the bottom of the Karimata Strait in the Java Sea, where rescuers retrieved a plane door and other debris on Tuesday, so victims could be identified."I feel a deep loss over this disaster and pray for the families to be given fortitude and strength," Widodo said in Surabaya on Tuesday after grim images of the scene in the Java Sea were broadcast on television.AirAsia Chief Executive Tony Fernandes has described the crash as his "worst nightmare".Widodo said AirAsia would pay an immediate advance of money to relatives, many of whom collapsed in grief when they saw the television pictures of debris and a body.The United States said its destroyer USS Sampson and combat ship USS Fort Worth were awaiting instructions from the Indonesian search command on the recovery operation. Singapore said it was sending two underwater beacon detectors to try to pick up pings from the black boxes, which contain cockpit voice and flight data recorders.About 30 ships and 21 aircraft from Indonesia, Australia, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea and the United States have been involved in the search.
NO DISTRESS CALL
The plane, which did not issue a distress signal, disappeared after its pilot failed to get permission to fly higher to avoid bad weather because of heavy air traffic.It was traveling at 32,000 feet (9,753 meters) and had asked to fly at 38,000 feet. When air traffic controllers granted permission for a rise to 34,000 feet a few minutes later, they received no response from the aircraft.Online discussion among pilots has centered on unconfirmed secondary radar data from Malaysia that suggested the aircraft was climbing at a speed of 353 knots, about 100 knots too slow, and that it might have stalled.Investigators are focusing initially on whether the crew took too long to request permission to climb, or could have ascended on their own initiative earlier, said a source close to the inquiry, adding that poor weather could have played a part as well.A Qantas pilot with 25 years of experience flying in the region said the discovery of the debris field relatively close to the last known radar plot of the plane pointed to an aerodynamic stall, most likely due to bad weather. One possibility is that the plane's instruments iced up in a tropical thunderstorm, giving the pilots inaccurate readings.The lack of a distress call indicated the pilots may have realized too late they were in trouble and were too busy struggling to control the aircraft to issue a call, the Qantas pilot said.The Indonesian pilot, a former air force fighter pilot with 6,100 flying hours under his belt, was experienced and the plane last underwent maintenance in mid-November, said the airline, which is 49 percent owned by Malaysia-based budget carrier AirAsia.Three airline disasters involving Malaysian-affiliated carriers in less than a year have dented confidence in the country's aviation industry and spooked travelers across the region.Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 went missing in March on a trip from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew and has not been found. On July 17, the same airline's Flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine, killing all 298 people on board.On board Flight QZ8501 were 155 Indonesians, three South Koreans, and one person each from Singapore, Malaysia and Britain. The co-pilot was French.The AirAsia group, including affiliates in Thailand, the Philippines and India, had not suffered a crash since its Malaysian budget operations began in 2002.(Additional reporting by Fergus Jensen, Wilda Asmarini, Charlotte Greenfield, Fransiska Nangoy, Cindy Silviana, Kanupriya Kapoor, Michael Taylor, Nilufar Rizki and Siva Govindasamy in JAKARTA/SURABAYA, Al-Zaquan Amer Hamzah and Praveen Menon in KUALA LUMPUR, Saeed Azhar, Rujun Shen and Anshuman Daga in SINGAPORE, Jane Wardell in SYDNEY, Andrew Callus and Tim Hepher in PARIS; Writing by Jane Wardell, Mark Bendeich; Editing by Michael Perry, Robert Birsel)
QZ8501 tragedy rekindles pain for MH370 relatives-AFP | Updated: December 31, 2014-astro awani
QZ8501 tragedy rekindles pain for MH370 relatives-BEIJING: Tearful relatives of those on board missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370 said Tuesday their torment has been awakened anew by the AirAsia loss in Indonesia, nine months into their nightmare."It is just like what happened nine months ago when I heard the news of MH370," said Steven Wang, whose 57-year-old mother was on the flight which remains one of the biggest aviation mysteries ever."I can feel the desperation that the next-of-kin are suffering now. It is terrible. It is horrible," he said.Wang emerged as one of the most vociferous campaigners for answers on how MH370 went missing on March 8, one hour into a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.An unofficial leader of hundreds of Chinese relatives who packed into often rowdy meetings with airline officials in the weeks after the disappearance, Wang was a sombre shadow of his former self after months of anguish."Most of the time now we are asking for information, but they say they have nothing," he said, with a dejected, weary tone.Two-thirds of the 239 people on board the missing Boeing 777 are Chinese citizens.A vast multi-national search has failed to find any sign of wreckage of MH370.On Tuesday authorities looking for AirAsia flight QZ8501 -- also owned by a Malaysian airline -- said they had found bodies, the shadow of a plane and debris in the sea off Indonesia.Selamat Omar, whose son Mohamad Khairul Amri Selamat was on MH370, said the news on AirAsia would provide some solace to victims' families."It looks like there could be no survivors after the QZ8501 crashed into the sea. I praise the Indonesian authorities and neighbouring countries for finding the plane in less than 50 hours after the plane vanished," he said."Now the victims' families can console themselves and give the victims a proper burial. The families can now have a closure and have a peace of mind which I am dying for."For other families of MH370, coping with their personal nightmare has filled the days since the plane vanished."Our entire life is a mess now," said Xu Jinghong, whose 65-year-old mother Liu Fengying was one of 153 Chinese passengers who failed to return home."I lost 10 kilogrammes (22 pounds) in weight, I couldn’t sleep well and don’t dare to see photos of my mother or think about her," she added, her voice cracking with emotion.
'Flood of emotion'
The disappearance of QZ8501 off Indonesia on Sunday sparked deep personal reflection on the plight of the relatives of the 162 people on board."I empathise with them because I’ve been there too," Xu said softly. "I want to tell them to take care of themselves."Xu spoke to AFP from her Beijing home as she welcomed another MH370 relative Dai Shuqin, whose younger sister Dai Shulin was on the plane, along with three generations of her family.Dai has channelled her grief into seeking answers from both Malaysia Airlines and the Chinese government over what happened to the jet.She regularly visits a "support centre" which was set up near Beijing airport after Malaysia Airlines stopped paying for families to attend meetings at the Lido Hotel in the city."I still have hope -- always -- as long as there’s no evidence to show that they are dead," said Dai, explaining why she continues her seemingly futile wait for answers."I won’t give up," the 61-year-old added in determined tones, but in a sentence interrupted by tears."I have experienced so much pain and hardship, and I have worked so hard for answers."American Sarah Bajc, whose partner Philip Wood was on MH370, told of the horror she felt learning another jet had vanished, a moment she said to herself: "Oh my God -- it has happened again."Bajc and Wood previously lived in Beijing, but were planning a life together in Kuala Lumpur before the plane's disappearance.Speaking from the Malaysian capital, she likened her emotions on hearing about MH370 with the loss of both the AirAsia jet and MH17, another Malaysia Airlines fight that went down in strife-torn eastern Ukraine in July with 298 people on board."You just instantly start to shake because all that flood of emotion of what we went through on March 8 all comes back," she said."You can't even control it. It's impossible. It is just a physical response.""Then you start thinking what those poor families are going through and you think 'Oh my God' -- nobody has to go through that."Read more at: http://english.astroawani.com/news/show/qz8501-tragedy-rekindles-pain-mh370-relatives-51235?cp
