Wednesday, July 31, 2013

TALKS IN SECRET FROM NOW ON

KING JESUS IS COMING FOR US ANY TIME NOW. THE RAPTURE. BE PREPARED TO GO.

LATEST PEACE OR IS IT PIECE TALK NEWS
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2013/07/update-on-peace-talks-today.html
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2013/07/1st-new-peace-talks-begin-today.html
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2013/07/peace-talks-start-today-in-washington.html
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2013/07/pa-prisoners-might-be-released-soon.html

LAND FOR PEACE (THE FUTURE 7 YEARS OF HELL ON EARTH)

JOEL 3:2
2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people(ISRAEL) and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.(UPROOTED ISRAELIS AND DIVIDED JERUSALEM)(THIS BRINGS ON WW3 BECAUSE JERUSALEM IS DIVIDED,WARNING TO ARABS-MUSLIMS AND THE WORLD).

THE WEEK OF DANIEL 9:27 WE KNOW ITS 7 YRS

Heres the scripture 1 week = 7 yrs Genesis 29:27-29
27 Fulfil her week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet seven other years.
28 And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also.
29 And Laban gave to Rachel his daughter Bilhah his handmaid to be her maid.

DANIEL 11:21-23
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.

DANIEL 9:26-27
26 And after threescore and two weeks(62X7=434 YEARS+7X7=49 YEARS=TOTAL OF 69 WEEKS OR 483 YRS) shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;(ROMAN LEADERS DESTROYED THE 2ND TEMPLE) and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.(THERE HAS TO BE 70 WEEKS OR 490 YRS TO FUFILL THE VISION AND PROPHECY OF DAN 9:24).(THE NEXT VERSE IS THAT 7 YR WEEK OR (70TH FINAL WEEK).
27 And he ( THE ROMAN,EU PRESIDENT) shall confirm the covenant (PEACE TREATY) with many for one week:(1X7=7 YEARS) and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,(3 1/2 yrs in TEMPLE ANIMAL SACRIFICES STOPPED) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

JEREMIAH 6:14
14 They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

JEREMIAH 8:11
11 For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

1 THESSALONIANS 5:3
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

ISAIAH 33:8
8  The highways lie waste, the wayfaring man ceaseth: he hath broken the covenant,(7 YR TREATY) he hath despised the cities, he regardeth no man.(THE WORLD LEADER-WAR MONGER CALLS HIMSELF GOD)

ISAIAH 28:14-19 (THIS IS THE 7 YR TREATY COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27)
14 Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.
15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.

Protest in New York Against Terrorist Prison Release-INN


A protest was held in New York City against the planned release of 104 terrorist from Israeli prisons. The rally was organized by Americans for a Safe Israel. It was held in front of the Israeli Consulate in Manhattan.

Danon: Livni Won't Think About Judea and Samaria

In New York, Deputy Defense Minister warns that the interests of Judea and Samaria will not be represented by the negotiating team.-By Elad Benari-First Publish: 7/31/2013, 4:46 AM-INN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_yreuLJ5k8
As Israeli and Palestinian Authority negotiators met in Washington to restart peace talks, Deputy Defense Minister Danny Danon (Likud) was in the U.S. as well, presenting his own view on the talks.
Danon, who also heads the Likud Central Committee, visited the offices of 5W Public Relations in New York, where he warned that Judea and Samaria had no representation at the talks.“I don’t like the fact that Tzipi Livni is the chief negotiator of the State of Israel along with Abu Alaa and Martin Indyk,” Danon stated during the meeting. “Who is representing us? Who thinks about the Jews who are living in Judea and Samaria? No one! It was proven that all of them, in the past 10 years, were willing to sign agreements that were bad for Israel.”He admitted that Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu could legally take an agreement with the Palestinian Authority and bring it to a referendum, bypassing the Likud Central Committee.
“Legally, he can bypass the Likud party,” said Danon. “Sharon did that in the past. Sharon went even further: He went to a referendum among the Likud members, lost, ignored it and went ahead with the Disengagement.”Netanyahu could “cook” a peace agreement with the PA and then bring it to the public for a referendum, warned Danon.Danon recently spoke out against a two-state solution to solve the Israeli-Arab conflict, and said that if Netanyahu brings the issue of a Palestinian state to a vote in the government, nobody will vote in favor.Livni quickly denounced Danon's remarks, saying, "The prime minister must decide if he is going to allow 'Danonism' to control the debate or if he will let forces that understand that a diplomatic solution is in Israel's interest make a decision.”She and members of her Hatnua party later worked behind the scenes to enlist the Yesh Atid party into a bloc within the coalition that would promote negotiations and work against the so-called “Danonism”.Initially, Yesh Atid responded positively to Hatnua’s overtures, but following an inquiry from the Maariv daily, sources in Yesh Atid reportedly said they would rethink this positive attitude – because no one consulted them about talking to the media.

Lieberman: You Can't Make Peace with a Holocaust Denier

PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas is a Holocaust denier and did a PhD about it, reminds MK Avigdor Lieberman.-By Elad Benari-First Publish: 7/31/2013, 3:12 AM-Israelnationalnews

MKs Shimon Ohayon and Avigdor Lieberman
MKs Shimon Ohayon and Avigdor Lieberman-Hezki Ezra
MK Avigdor Lieberman, head of the Yisrael Beytenu party, predicted on Tuesday that peace with the Palestinian Authority will never be possible because of its leadership.
Speaking at a meeting of the newly founded Knesset Lobby to Combat Anti-Semitism which is headed by MK Shimon Ohayon (Yisrael Beytenu), Lieberman reminded participants that PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas is a Holocaust denier, whose doctoral dissertation was entitled “The Connection between the Nazis and the Leaders of the Zionist Movement.”"There cannot be true peace or a diplomatic process with someone who denies the Holocaust,” said Lieberman. “Abbas’s book in which he denies the Holocaust is on the bookshelf in my office. I do not recall that any of those who welcomed the peace process reminded Abbas of his denial of the Holocaust, which he continues to do in media interviews."He added, "When I was Foreign Minister, every time a respected person would come to my office and tell me that Abbas wants peace, I would show him Mahmoud Abbas’s book in which he denies the Holocaust.""Modern anti-Semitism today is in the Palestinian Authority," Lieberman stated. “You should see the PA’s textbooks that do not teach the next generation, the so-called generation of peace, about the Holocaust. These are our so-called partners for peace...”As Israel and the PA prepare to sit down yet again for another round of talks, PA television has been continuing to broadcast anti-Israel and anti-Semitic programs and songs.In a “music video” first released in 2011 and re-released over the past several days, Israel is called “the snake's head” which needs to be crushed by Arab rifles. It comes only days after another PA program honored arch-terrorist Abdallah Barghouti for his role in the murder of 61 Israelis in a string of atrocities.
On Monday, Abbas presented a racist and hateful vision of a future Palestinian state, when he said in Cairo that “Palestine” would not have “a single Israeli – civilian or soldier.”Arab affairs expert Dalit Halevi explained that when Abbas spoke of “Israelis”, he in fact meant “Jews." She pointed out that the PA refers to all of the Arabs who live in what they term “Palestine” – including “Israeli Arabs” – as Palestinians. There is, therefore, no distinction in the PA's approach between “Palestinians” and “Arabs,” and similarly no distinction between “Jews” and “Israelis,” when speaking of residents of the territory of the Land of Israel (“Palestine”)

Quartet to Israel and PA: Don't 'Undermine' the Talks

The Quartet issues a joint call on Israel and the Palestinian Authority not to "undermine trust" as they embark on peace talks.-By Elad Benari-First Publish: 7/31/2013, 2:13 AM-Israelnationalnews

US State Dept. Briefing on Israel-PA Talks
US State Dept. Briefing on Israel-PA Talks-frame of video
The United States, Russia, European Union and United Nations - known as the Quartet - on Tuesday made a joint call on Israel and the Palestinian Authority not to "undermine trust" as they embark on peace talks, reported AFP.
The diplomatic Quartet on the Middle East said it was determined to support the two sides' "shared commitment to achieve a negotiated two-state solution within the agreed timeframe of nine months."
The Quartet "calls on all parties to take every possible step to promote conditions conducive to the success of the negotiating process and to refrain from actions that undermine trust," said a joint statement quoted by AFP.The group praised the "courageous decision" of Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and Israel's Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to launch the talks which started in Washington on Monday.
Envoys from the Quartet, which was set up to promote a road map toward peace between Israel and the PA, would meet "soon", the statement said."While noting that much hard work lies ahead, the Quartet expresses its hope that renewed negotiations will be substantive and continuous and set a clear path towards a two-state solution, the end of conflict, and lasting peace and security for both Israelis and Palestinians," said the statement, according to AFP.Earlier Tuesday, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry reaffirmed his government's commitment to a "two-state solution" between Israel and the PA, as he summed up the initial progress made between the sides.Speaking at a brief news conference with Israeli negotiator Tzipi Livni and PA negotiator Saeb Erekat, Kerry noted was that "all final status issues... core issues and all other issues are all on the table."Kerry also declared that the meetings - scheduled to restart some time in the next two weeks and continue over the course of nine months - will be held in complete secrecy.U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday said that he was "hopeful" about the renewed talks. .Obama, who travelled to Israel in March for his first visit to the region as president, met with Livni and Erekat. He has welcomed the start of new talks as a "promising step" forward, and promised U.S. support as the two sides mull the "hard choices" facing them.


Senior US Officials: Talks will ease pressure on Israel at UN

Before declaring restart of talks Obama personally called Netanyahu to gauge his committment, says White House source

By July 31, 2013, 9:42 am 0-The Times of Israel

Prior to the announcement of renewed talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, US President Barack Obama made a personal phone call to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, a senior White House official revealed Tuesday evening. During the closed-door briefing, two senior administration officials also said that they expected pressure on Israel at the United Nations to be somewhat reduced by the resumption of talks.
“The Palestinians throughout the course of this year have been making clear that if they couldn’t see progress on the peace front, that their intention would be to seek other elevations of their status, whether at the UN or other international organizations, which is not something that the United States supports, but is something that could have created a significant amount of friction with Israel and really interrupted the progress we want to see in the region,” one of the two officials said Tuesday.“So it’s no secret that one of the motivating factors, I think for everybody, was to avoid that sort of train wreck that would have happened, that might have happened, if we weren’t able to get negotiations started,” the official added.The United Nations General Assembly, an annual meeting that in recent years has seen its fair share of anti-Israel efforts by Palestinians and their supporters, is scheduled to be held in mid-September.Speaking under the condition of anonymity, one of the two, a senior State Department official, revealed that Kerry had placed as a precondition for resumption of talks that the negotiations would aim at reaching a final status agreement – and not “talks for the sake of talks.” In advance of those talks, the White House official said, Obama called Netanyahu mere days before Kerry announced the resumption of negotiations.The second official, a senior official at the White House, said Obama and his advisers “were impressed with the outlook and the atmosphere” of the opening round of peace talks, held over the past two days in Washington DC. “It really does appear that these negotiators are coming to it with the seriousness that will be necessary to tackle the challenges ahead,” the official said.Also speaking on the condition of anonymity, a senior State Department official said that US mediators had witnessed “final status negotiations, direct final status negotiations between the parties today.”
The Israelis and the Palestinians, the State Department official said, devoted a “fair amount” of time to discussing whether or not to prioritize specific topics for negotiation or to put all of them on the table concurrently.“There are certain modalities that need to be worked out between the parties,” the official added. “We agreed on the next meeting, which will take place in the region within the next two weeks,” the official added.The official said that the message that Secretary of State John Kerry hopes to convey is that he understands that the talks are “going to be very, very hard, and it’s going to take some very, very tough choices by the leaders if we’re going to get where we were all trying to get to.”Kerry, the official said, was “very encouraged by the decisions that Prime Minister Netanyahu took in the last days to – agreement to release prisoners, a tough, tough fight he had with his cabinet.” He said that the prime minister had sent a message to Israelis “making the case for peace” and described Netanyahu’s actions as “extraordinarily encouraging signs as far as we were concerned, and I think really took some courage and some leadership from Prime Minister Netanyahu.”The State Department official added that “by the same token, President Abbas made a very difficult decision,” but did not detail what exactly the decision was.Addressing the brief meeting held Tuesday among Obama and the top negotiators for both sides, the senior White House official said that Obama “is fully aware, and made clear to the parties, that there is an awful lot of difficult work to do in the days and months ahead” and that “he personally is ready to engage to support the process.”
The official said that following the president’s March trip to the Middle East, including Israel, “he came away from that trip convinced that peace was both necessary and possible, and so he asked the Secretary to follow up and to do everything he could to get a negotiation started again after quite a long hiatus.”
The two officials also revealed that in the coming weeks, the public will hear about “steps forward on the economic front”, most likely framed around the Quartet’s economic initiative. The economic development, the official later added, will not come through US appropriation of money for assistance to the Palestinian Authority, but rather “to leverage the private sector into making very, very significant investments into the West Bank and also to Gaza Strip.”The White House official said that the administration perceived a new opportunity for talks due to changing conditions in the Middle East, and particularly concerning Israel. The official enumerated a list of changes that impacted the immediacy for the renewed talks, including the recent elections in both Israel and the United States, “a new dynamic vis-à-vis the United Nations”, and the impact of the Arab Spring, particularly in Israel’s neighbors Egypt and Syria.

All issues to be on the table, Kerry says as peace talks kick off

Secretary says teams will meet again in two weeks in Middle East to begin substantive discussions; Obama, Biden meet sides at White House to express support for final status effort


By and and July 30, 2013, 7:22 pm 6
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“I’m convinced we can get there,” an upbeat Kerry said.Calling the initial engagement positive and constructive, Kerry said the upcoming nine months of talks would seek to resolve all issues between the parties, seemingly shelving any notion of an interim agreement.“The parties have agreed to remain engaged in sustained, continuous and substantive negotiations on the core issues,” Kerry told reporters at a press conference. “The parties have agreed that all the final status issues, all the core issues and all other issues are all on the table for negotiations.”Kerry’s statement, made an hour later than planned, came after over three hours of meetings between the sides, including a joint session with US President Barack Obama at the White House.Kerry said the sides would meet again in two weeks in Israel or the Palestinian Authority to begin the process of “formal negotiations.”“A viable two-state solution is the only way this conflict can end and there is not much time to achieve it,” he said.Justice Minister Tzipi Livni, representing the Israeli side along with Yitzhak Molcho, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s personal envoy to the talks, said she was “hopeful for talks but could not be naive, we cannot afford it in our region.”“It’s not going to be easy. It’s going to be hard with ups and downs, but I can assure you that in these negotiations it is not our intention to argue about the past but to make decisions for the future,” she said.Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said the Palestinians were happy to see that all issues would be discussed in the talks, which are expected to last nine months.“I am delighted that all final status issues will be resolved, without any exceptions,” he said. “It’s time for the Palestinians to live in peace, freedom and dignity within their own sovereign state.”Both Livni and Kerry addressed the deep skepticism that has surrounded the talks, the first round in three years and the latest of a series of negotiations led by the US, but said overcoming the pessimism was paramount to success.“While I understand the skepticism, I don’t share it and I don’t think we have time for it,” Kerry said.All three diplomats spoke in broad terms, notably avoiding mention of the 1967 borders, Jerusalem, settlements or any other issues that will form the heart of the talks. Livni and Kerry both alluded to Israel’s decision on Sunday to release 104 Palestinian prisoners, many of them convicted on terror charges, to meet Ramallah’s precondition for talks.“A courageous act of leadership by Prime Minister Netanyahu made the visit here and the beginning of negotiations possible,” Livni said at the press conference.Tuesday’s talks lasted for approximately three hours, with the last 45 minutes devoted to trilateral negotiations between Kerry, Livni and Erekat.The one-day summit was the first high-level engagement between the sides since 2010. Livni told Israeli news site Ynet that the discussion was “held under eight eyes without a mediator. It was good.”The White House meeting lasted a bit less than half an hour, with US Vice President Joseph Biden, Kerry, National Security Administration Chief and former UN envoy Susan Rice, NSC Coordinator Philip Gordon and the top American negotiator, Martin Indyk, present on the American side.White House Spokesman Jay Carney said, “The president used this opportunity to convey his appreciation to both sides for the leadership and courage they have shown in coming to the table, and to directly express his personal support for final-status negotiations.”Obama, Carney said, emphasized that there was “much to do in the days and months ahead.”Obama’s meeting with the sides was a shift for the president, who has mostly stayed on the sidelines during the last several months while Kerry has shepherded the two sides to a resumption of talks.The White House reiterated that Obama was “engaged” in the process, even if he had delegated the direct responsibility for overseeing negotiations to Kerry.Before seeing Obama on Tuesday, the negotiators met together without American mediators. After leaving the White House they returned to the State Department for a three-way meeting with Kerry and top aides.Officials from all parties expressed cautious optimism about the negotiations’ prospects for success as they began Tuesday morning.Speaking from Latvia on a state visit Tuesday, President Shimon Peres said Israel was hoping for the best.“In the 65 years of Israel’s existence, during which we were forced to fight seven wars, we have always aspired for peace and democracy –- the negotiations started yesterday and we hope for the best,” Peres said. “Israel’s desire, and the purpose of the talks, is the creation of two states for two peoples — living side by side with economic and scientific cooperation.”Hours after the opening round of talks concluded Tuesday, Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) pitched a resolution commending Kerry for jumpstarting the negotiations and called on both sides to push for a two-state solution to guarantee lasting peace.The resolution was co-sponsored by Senators Tim Kaine (D-VA) and Martin Heinrich (D-NM). A day earlier, Kaine took the reins of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee’s Mideast Subcommittee.“Resolving the longstanding conflict between the Palestinians and Israelis is in the fundamental interest of the United States,” Feinstein wrote in a statement Tuesday evening. “Secretary Kerry’s efforts to get both sides to the negotiating table have paid off, but negotiators will need to make very difficult decisions over the next nine months to reach a lasting two-state agreement.”The senators declared that “a two-state solution is the only outcome to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict which can ensure the State of Israel’s survival as a secure, democratic homeland for the Jewish people, and fulfill the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinian people for a state of their own.”The resolution, which must still be approved by the Senate, also stated that the “achievement of a two-state solution that would enhance stability and security in the Middle East is a fundamental United States security interest.”
On Monday, Peres called Indyk, the newly appointed US envoy to the negotiations, and wished him luck on his mission to help the sides reach an agreement. “You took upon yourself a mission important like no other and I thank you for it,” Peres told Indyk, a former ambassador to Israel. “I have my fingers crossed for your success and for the progress of the negotiations that will bring a peaceful solution to both sides.”Peace talks kicked off informally in Washington Monday evening with an Iftar dinner, a traditional dinner marking the close of the daily fast during the month of Ramadan.Livni described the mood at the dinner as “very good” and even friendly, emphasizing that both sides were “serious” and had learned from personal experience in earlier rounds of talks.The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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