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09/16/2014 - VATICAN INSIDER-Family: After the preventive “wars”, it’s over to the Synod-The Extraordinary Synod will run from 5 to 19 October-Pamphlets, books and interviews have focused on the question of communion for remarried divorcees. But there are many more questions that remain open and are to be discussed by the Synod fathers-ANDREA TORNIELLI
vatican city-The complete list of individuals who will be attending the upcoming Extraordinary Synod on the family, published last week, has triggered all kinds of reactions: some punctiliously pointed out that various prelates who had stood out for their public defence of the family pro-family were missing from the list. Others from across the Atlantic were unable to contain their disappointment in the face of the significant representation of papal delegates averse to any kind of openness on the issue of communion for remarried divorcees.In actual fact, by including cardinals and bishops who represent a wide range of sensitivities and positions, Francis may have wished to respect the variety within the College of Bishops and point out that the Synod is where issues will be discussed. The “preventive wars” fought in the media are not or should not be the place for these kinds of debates.At last February’s Consistory Cardinal Kasper proposed that cardinals reflect on the family as Pope Francis had wanted. Towards the end of his speech, the German cardinal asked some questions regarding the possibility of a review of the Church rules on marriage annulments (Benedict XVI had suggested this on more than one occasion) and the possibility of readmitting divorced people who have entered into a new civil union to the Eucharist – after a period of penitence and only under certain limited conditions which pastors should consider on a case by case basis.Kasper did not mean that the indissolubility of sacramental marriage should be called into question. In the eyes of the Church, this was and remains the first legally valid marriage contract. He also did not suggest that second unions should receive public recognition as they have done for some time now in the Orthodox Churches. One may or may not agree with the ideas put forward by the German cardinal: there is no doubt that there would be few directly interested parties and these would be people who either have a strong faith, or rediscovered their faith after the failure of their first marriage, or have a painful past and are suffering as a result of their constant exclusion from the Eucharist.As is known, in certain cases, after speaking with their confessor, remarried divorcees may be admitted to the Eucharist despite the ban. Some pastors who are staunch defenders of traditional doctrine when it comes to this subject, occasionally make exceptions if the person is known to them personally.What everyone is constantly trying to stress, with the Extraordinary Synod just round the corner (it has been scheduled for this October) and a second Synod due in 2015, is that people should not focus all of their attention exclusively on the subject of remarried divorcees, as if it were the only issue the Synod fathers are being called to discuss and to resolve. And everyone is quite right. But this begs the question of whether the focus has not remained on this subject partly because of cardinals insistence on reiterating how unacceptable the debate is in pamphlets, book interviews and articles.Essentially, the illustrious cardinals who have been voicing their opinions over the past seven months, some of them because of their positions within the Curia, could have been more discreet about voicing said opinions publicly, so as to avoid making it seem like they were the ones who were predetermining the content of the Synod discussions – instead of the Pope and the Synod assembly – even if they were only speaking for themselves.As is known, certain Church circles have covertly criticized the innovative working method introduced by Francis for this assembly. The Synod is not going to be basing its discussions on sociological studies but on real life situations, concrete problems, expectations and the experiences of families who participate in Church life. And this, in the awareness that the Gospel should be presented to men and women just as they are, not as we would like them to be or as the Code of Canon Law and the reflections of certain self-referential theological circles say they should be.There are many problems to resolve and many questions that remain unanswered. Families have changed a great deal in recent decades, as is apparent to anyone who is immersed in the day-to-day life of today’s society. Focusing on just one of the problems facing the Church would certainly be reductive. Proposing prepackaged solutions before discussions have even started, presenting changes as certain or ruling them out as unacceptable, or prophesying changes, as some “fortune teller” bishops seemed to try to do, would also be to oversimplify things. The end aim of any debate, reform or decision should only be “saving souls” as Francis said during the pre-Conclave Congregations. After the “preventive wars”, now it is time for the Synod’s members to listen and to “walk together”.
09/14/2014 - VATICAN INSIDER-Curia: Single dicastery for social doctrine issues is under study
Reforms - the Vatican is busy at work-The Pope’s advisors on Curia reform will be holding a new round of talks Monday. They will review the roles and tasks of Congregations and Pontifical Councils. Tasks relating to justice and peace, migrants and charity may come under one umbrella. The new Pontifical Council for the Laity is working on adding a section specially dedicated to the role of women-ANDREA TORNIELLI
vatican city-The group of cardinals tasked with advising the Pope on Curia reform will be holding a new meeting from Monday15th to Wednesday 17th in the Vatican. There is eight of them, plus the Vatican Secretary of State, Pietro Parolin. The group is responsible for improving and simplifying Curia structures and helping Francis govern the universal Church.No major developments are expected, one of the cardinals involved told Vatican Insider. Unless there are any last minute surprises, there probably won’t be any new announcements regarding mergers or structural reforms. Both inside and outside the Curia there are those who say things are moving very slowly. However, it should be remembered that even the process which concluded with the Apostolic Constitution “Pastor Bonus”, the last structural reform passed by John Paul II, lasted five whole years.The situation regarding the Pontifical Councils is at the top of the cardinals’ agenda (cardinals proceeded in the order set out in the Pontifical Yearbook and the last items on the list have not been taken into consideration yet). Also at the top of the agenda is a review of the work done and the proposals made during previous meetings. In fact it is not unusual for clarifications and adjustments to be made while the general plan goes ahead.The creation of a dicastery focusing on the family, is certain by now and will probably take the form of a congregation for the laity. The dicastery would encompass the homonymous Pontifical Council led by Bishop Vincenzo Paglia and the Pontifical Council for the Laity led by Cardinal Stanislaw Rylko. Within this new structure which will aim to give a more prominent role to the laity in the Church, there should also be a section specifically dedicated to women and their role in the Church. The possibility of the new dicastery absorbing the Pontifical Academy for Life as well is also being discussed but nothing has been decided yet.Another dicastery that is under study could encompass all bodies that deal with issues relating to the social doctrine of the Church: the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, Cor Unum and the Pontifical Council for the Pastoral Care of Migrants and Itinerants. But in this case too, nothing has yet been decided. The migration question is gaining in importance and any potential mergers must avoid making it seem like less attention is being paid to this very serious issue. Meanwhile, the future of the Pontifical Council for Promoting New Evangelization is currently being discussed.Given the importance of ecumenical dialogue, the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity should keep its current tasks and leaders. Some tasks could be transferred from one dicastery to another; this is being looked into. For example catechesis could become the responsibility of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Meanwhile, the rumours surrounding a potential merger between the Congregation for the Causes of Saints and the Congregation for Divine Worship are false. If this were to happen, the situation would go back to being what it was before the reform introduced by Paul VI, when one dicastery, the Sacred Congregation of Rites, dealt with canonizations, beatifications and the liturgy.The reform examination process is moving along and efforts are being made to look into all possibilities. It must be remembered that the process was slowed by the Vatican’s financial emergencies following the judicial inquiries into the IOR and the creation of the Secretariat for the Economy in response to the urgent need for the Vatican to sort out its expenses. The exact future structure of the IOR is still under discussion: it is essential that it sticks to international anti-money laundering regulations and acts with honesty and transparency (which it sadly did not do in the recent past). But it is just as essential that the IOR’s structure allows it to serve its purpose. This means it should be in a position to help Churches in need, single missionaries and religious works throughout the world. Whilst it should respect the rules of transparency, it should not be subject to any form of political control – even indirect – which may limit its freedom of movement in countries the international community considers as risk nations.
DANIEL 7:23-25
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast (EU,REVIVED ROME) shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth,(7TH WORLD EMPIRE) which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.(TRADING BLOCKS-10 WORLD REGIONS/TRADE BLOCS)
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings(10 NATIONS-10 WORLD DIVISION WORLD GOVERNMENT) that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.(THE EU (EUROPEAN UNION) TAKES OVER IRAQ WHICH HAS SPLIT INTO 3-SUNNI-KURD-SHIA PARTS-AND THE REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE IS BROUGHT BACK TOGETHER-THE TWO LEGS OF DANIEL WESTERN LEG AND THE ISLAMIC LEG COMBINED AS 1)
Ukraine gives rebels 'special status', ratifies EU treaty-Today @ 15:22-SEPT 16,14-EUOBSERVER-By Andrew Rettman
BRUSSELS - Ukraine has granted semi-autonomy and amnesty to pro-Russia rebels, the same day as ratifying a strategic EU treaty.Its parliament, the Verkhovna Rada, passed the rebel laws in a closed session on Tuesday (16 September) by 277 and 287 votes out of 450, respectively, a pro-Western MP, Andriy Shevchenko, said on Twitter.They give the rebel strongholds in Donetsk and Luhansk, east Ukraine, limited self-rule, or “special status”, for the next three years, with local elections in December to cement the new leadership.They also say rebels who did not commit heinous crimes, such as shooting down MH17, and who give up their arms will not be prosecuted.The measures are in line with the “Minsk protocol” - a Russia-Ukraine peace deal signed after Russia sent troops into east Ukraine in late August.The laws were passed with more than 3,000 Russian troops still on Ukrainian territory, Ukraine’s defence ministry says.They got a wary welcome from one rebel leader, Igor Plotnitsky, who told Russian media “we may say that a peaceful solution has received its first chance”.But critics say they will create a frozen conflict designed to stop Ukraine from joining the EU or Nato.They also risk harming Ukraine leader Petro Poroshenko’s popularity at a time when he is trying to push through pro-EU reforms.Poroshenko told MPs on Tuesday the laws are in line with “complete and unconditional observance of the state's sovereignty, territorial integrity”.But opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko, whose party voted No, said they “legalise terrorism and the occupation of Ukraine”.Halya Conyash, an analyst at KHPG, an NGO based in Kharkiv in north east Ukraine, accused the EU of railroarding Kiev into the deal so that Russia does not stop EU gas supplies.The Rada and the European Parliament also on Tuesday ratified the EU association and free trade pacts.The Rada passed it by 335 votes, with no one, even from the former regime’s Party of Regions, saying No. The EU assembly passed it by 535 out of 751, with 127 against, mostly from far-right and far-left parties.The two parliaments - which held a joint session by video-link - marked the event with a standing ovation and with a silent tribute to victims of the conflict.“ Today we leave behind the Soviet past and set out on the path of comprehensive reforms”, Ukraine’s foreign minister, Pavlo Klimkin, said.Shevchenko noted: “We could only dream of this during the endless three months of Maidan [the pro-EU revolution]. Proud to be Ukrainian”.Kiev and Brussels were forced to defend a recent decision to suspend implementation of the trade pact until 2016, however.Poroshenko said he will launch economic reforms “from the first minute” despite the suspension. He added that he did not change “a single paragraph, a single word” of the EU treaty despite Russian pressure.EU officials said Russia would have crippled Ukraine with trade penalties if the pact entered into force now.EU trade chief Karel De Gucht, who personally brokered the suspension with Moscow, told MEPs the accord “created the conditions for ratification today”.“This is not just a political fact, it’s a legal fact, a juridical fact - you have the treaty [now]”, he said.EU neighbourhood commissioner Stefan Fuele noted that Ukraine asked for the suspension “because, in addition to the military threat and its potential escalation, we were also facing the threat of a full-scale economic and trade war [by Russia]".He hit out at MEPs on the far right and left, calling their pro-Russia views “populist … nonsense”.Reeling off a list of international treaties violated by Russia when it invaded Ukraine, he said: “If someone here blames EU policy for the problems, then I don’t know how to follow their logic”.
Big and small MEPs jostle in EU parliament-Today @ 09:29-SEPT 16,14-EUOBSERVER-By Lukas Vanacker
BRUSSELS - The real work for the 751 newly elected MEPs will soon begin. In parliament, politicians who were elected with hundreds of thousands of preferential votes, will sit next to colleagues who received fewer than a thousand votes.Sophie in 't Veld is Europe’s most popular MEP. In the May European elections, she received 568,185 preferential votes.In 't Veld was top of the list of the winning Dutch party D66. In 't Veld, 50, is a euro-politician to the core. She has never been involved in national Dutch politics and has lived in Brussels ("a lovely city") for 20 years.On the Dutch ballot-papers, Brussels was even listed as her official place of residence. "Some colleagues live in Brussels and just have their post address in the Netherlands", in 't Veld says. "That's rubbish. I spend more time travelling than at home in Brussels. But I'm mostly available and accessible. Distance is a very relative concept."
Influence?
In the top 10 MEPs with most preferential votes, Sophie in 't Veld and Guy Verhofstadt (2), both members of the liberal Alde group, are joined by outspoken critics of the European Union. More than 20 percent of Danish voters voted for local right-wing politician Morten Messerschmidt (3). The Greek communist Manolis Glezos (4) and Dutch populist Geert Wilders (9), who eventually did not take up his seat in the European Parliament, scored well too.But in 't Veld doubts that her own high score guarantees more influence in the European Parliament."My Italian colleagues probably don’t know how many preference votes I got," she says. "But they do know that my party scored well, and that I was head of the party’s list. In 2004, I was the only MEP for D66 in the European Parliament. In 2009 we obtained two additional seats, last May we won our fourth seat. You build a reputation by winning elections."Nevertheless, popular politicians from smaller countries often miss important posts in the European Parliament. In July, the chairs of 16 out of 20 standing committees in the parliament were elected. Twelve chairs represent one of the four largest member states: Germany (4), France (2), the UK (3) and Italy (3).“It’d be better for you to be a completely unknown politician in the German SPD than a famous one in a small party " notes Steven Van Hecke, a political scientist at the university of Leuven.Sophie in 't Veld is acquainted with the fragile relationship between MEPs from small and large countries."During the previous legislature, the liberal group housed two big delegations. Both the British Liberal Democrats and the German FDP held 12 MEPs, although D66 had scored as well as the FDP in 2009 [11%].But, unfortunately, we came from a smaller country. In 2014 the British and German liberals were decimated while the liberals in the Netherlands and France won. As a result, the liberal group has been reduced and fewer big delegations remain. That has led to less dominance within our fraction, and people have clearly noticed that we won the elections. That is more important than the number of preference votes."But Van Hecke argues that personal scores play a role in the European political sphere."The liberal MEPs surely know that Guy Verhofstadt had a good result in Belgium. If Verhofstadt had lost the elections, he would not have been the liberal leader anymore."A comparison of the European election results makes clear that the electoral systems in different EU member states vary considerably.About half of the 751 MEPs are not elected on the basis of preferential votes. Most of the larger member states (Germany, France, the United Kingdom, Spain, Romania, Portugal and Hungary) have closed electoral systems: voters cannot give preference votes and the order of elected politicians is fixed in advance.Italy is the only major European country with a preferential voting system, though the country is divided into five smaller constituencies. Thus the Netherlands constitutes the largest electoral district where politicians can collect personal votes: five Dutch politicians are listed in the top 10 of the most popular MEPs.
Differences in voting systems
Major differences exist between countries with a preferential voting system. Austrians can only give a personal vote to one candidate of a single party. Barbara Kappel, member of the far-right FPOe, is the only MEP who was elected with fewer than 1,000 preference votes.In Luxembourg, voters can give six votes to individual candidates, even if they run on different lists. No fewer than 125,000 out of 225,000 voters supported outgoing European Commissioner Viviane Reding in this way.Latvians who support a certain politician, put a plus sign on the ballot next to the name of that politician. The names of unpopular candidates can be crossed out. This system sometimes has a strange outcome.For example, Latvian candidate Peteris Vinkelis obtained nearly 5,000 plus signs in May, and at the same time 28,700 negative votes."Most politicians on our list got almost 23,000 negative votes", Vinkelis explains. "Apparently, many voters strikethrough most names on the list." Vinkelis, assistant to Latvian MEP Sandra Kalniete (EPP), has a certain surname disadvantage as well.His sister-in-law, former minister of welfare Ilzes Vinkeles, became very unpopular among the Latvian population by increasing the retirement age."It took the member states about forty years to agree on a uniform electoral system that could be used to elect MEPs in all Member States," professor Van Hecke explains."The Treaty of Amsterdam in 1997 stated that the electoral system should be a form of proportional representation: a major concession for the United Kingdom and France. But other member states also don’t want to harmonise different electoral systems further. Otherwise, Brussels would decide on such issues as the electoral threshold and the male-female ratio on the list, and member states would lose control over the electoral process."There is still a long way to go to a single European electoral system.However, the distribution of seats in the parliament protect small countries very well. For example, Germany holds 96 seats in the parliament, or one seat for more than half a million Germans. In the meantime, a Luxembourg MEP, only represents 50,000 people, ten times fewer. "Such differences frustrate MEPs from large countries much more," Van Hecke notes.The system has worked well for Austria's Barbara Kappel. After several years as an unknown local member of parliament in Vienna, Kappel, 49, suddenly moved to the European Parliament."The decade-long, outstanding political work of Dr. Kappel is well known and appreciated across all party boundaries and has been rewarded by the Austrian electorate with a mandate in Brussels, " Kappel’s assistant writes. That’s thanks to her 918 voters, 600 times less than Sophie in 't Veld.
MEPs with the most preferential votes
1 Sophie in ‘t Veld (Netherlands) 568.185 votes (ALDE)
2 Guy Verhofstadt (Belgium) 531.030 votes (ALDE)
3 Morten Messerschmidt (Denmark) 465.758 votes (ECR)
4 Manolis Glezos (Greece) 448.971 votes (GUE/NGL)
5 Esther de Lange (Netherlands) 415.011 votes (EPP)
6 Hans van Baalen (Netherlands) 358.029 votes (ALDE)
7 Marianne Thyssen (Belgium) 340.026 votes (EPP)
8 Dennis de Jong (Netherlands) 300.782 votes (GUE/NGL)
9 Geert Wilders (Netherlands) 290.239 votes
10 Simona Bonafé (Italy) 288.674 votes (S&D)
LUKE 21:28-33
28 And when these things begin to come to pass,(ALL THE PROPHECY SIGNS FROM THE BIBLE) then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree,(ISRAEL) and all the trees;(ALL INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES)
30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.
32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
DANIEL 7:23-25
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast (EU,REVIVED ROME) shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth,(7TH WORLD EMPIRE) which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.(TRADING BLOCKS-10 WORLD REGIONS/TRADE BLOCS)
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings(10 NATIONS-10 WORLD DIVISION WORLD GOVERNMENT) that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.(THE EU (EUROPEAN UNION) TAKES OVER IRAQ WHICH HAS SPLIT INTO 3-SUNNI-KURD-SHIA PARTS-AND THE REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE IS BROUGHT BACK TOGETHER-THE TWO LEGS OF DANIEL WESTERN LEG AND THE ISLAMIC LEG COMBINED AS 1)
Polls show Scottish opponents of independence with slight lead ahead of vote-Reuters-By Guy Faulconbridge and Alistair Smout-SEPT 16,14-YAHOONEWS
EDINBURGH (Reuters) - Scottish supporters of staying in the United Kingdom are 4 percentage points ahead of secessionists with just a day to go before Scots vote in an independence referendum, three different opinion polls showed.The United Kingdom's fate remains uncertain as the three surveys - from pollsters ICM, Opinium and Survation - showed support for Scottish independence at 48 percent compared to 52 percent backing union.The polls found 8 to 14 percent of Scotland's 4.3 million voters were still undecided before polls open at 0600 GMT on Thursday.All three polls showed nationalists had gained ground, but the fact that supporters of the union were ahead in the polls prompted investors to buy the pound, extending sterling's gain against the U.S. dollar."It is very tight," John Curtice, professor of politics at Strathclyde University and one of Scotland's premier pollsters, told the Scotsman newspaper which commissioned the ICM poll."At the moment it looks as if the 'yes' campaign is going to fall agonizingly short from their perspective. But I have always said this is the 'no' campaign’s to lose and it certainly looks as if they have got pretty close to that."In the face of the biggest internal threat to the United Kingdom since Ireland broke away nearly a century ago, Britain's establishment - from Prime Minister David Cameron to the City of London and soccer star David Beckham - have united in an almost panicked effort to implore Scots that the United Kingdom is "Better Together."Attempting to blunt nationalist leader Alex Salmond's argument for breaking away, Britain's rulers promised to guarantee Scotland high levels of state funding and grant Scots greater control over finances.In a deal brokered by former Labour Prime Minister Gordon Brown, the leaders of Britain's three main political parties said they would retain the funding equation that sustains a higher level of public spending north of the border.British leaders accept that even if Scotland votes to keep the 307-year union, the United Kingdom's structure will have to change as the rush to grant so many powers to Scotland will provoke calls for a less centralized state from voters in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.Swathes of voters in the former industrial heartlands of northern England and Wales depend on state welfare spending while some English lawmakers in Cameron's own party have already asked for England to be given more powers.
END OF THE UNITED KINGDOM?
Cameron, whose job is on the line if Scots vote to break the United Kingdom, warned on his last visit to Scotland before Thursday's vote that there would be no going back and that any separation could be painful.His voice at times faltering with emotion, Cameron took the extraordinary step of reminding Scots that if they did not like him then he would not be prime minister for ever.But nationalist leader Salmond dismissed Cameron's offer of more powers, saying the next time he visited Scotland would be to negotiate divorce terms of the 1707 union of Scotland and England."It is actually an insult to the intelligence of the people of Scotland to rehash these proposals (at the) last gasp in the campaign and hope beyond hope that people think it is anything substantial. It is not." the 59-year-old Scottish leader said.If Scots vote for independence, Britain and Scotland would face 18 months of negotiations over everything from North Sea oil and the pound to European Union membership and Britain's main nuclear submarine base.The prospect of breaking up the United Kingdom, the world's sixth-largest economy and a veto-wielding permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, has prompted citizens and allies alike to ponder what would be left.The White House said it would prefer the United Kingdom to remain "strong, robust and united" while Martin Amis, one of Britain's best-known novelists, said secession would be a leap in the dark."What would be left of it if Scotland got out is a very diminished country," said Amis, whose novels have explored the darker side of British life.Aside from the finance and geopolitics of a secession vote, the battle for voters was entering its peak on the last full day of campaigning. Several more opinion polls are due to be released on Wednesday.Voters will be asked on Thursday to answer yes or no to the question "Should Scotland be an independent country?"Seeking to tap into a cocktail of historical rivalry, opposing political tastes and a perception that London has mismanaged Scotland for decades, nationalists say an independent Scotland could build a wealthier and fairer country.Unionists say independence would needlessly break up the United Kingdom and usher in years of financial, economic and political uncertainty. They have warned that Scotland would not keep the pound as part of a formal currency union.(Writing by Guy Faulconbridge; Editing by Cynthia Osterman)
Scotland on verge of 'independence lite'-15.09.14 @ 09:14-EUOBSERVER-By Valentina Pop
Edinburgh - Travelers to Scotland, beware. In buses, pubs and street rallies, people have only one thing on their mind these days: Scottish independence. They wear bumper stickers with “Yes” or “No thanks”, dye their hair white and blue, sing folk songs and hand out leaflets. Posters are everywhere.For the yes camp, it is about a nation going its own way, breaking away from a political elite in Westminister.To “naysayers”, it is a foolish decision instigated by populists, that will ruin two nations for generations to come.Both camps are virtually equal, with pollsters saying the referendum on Thursday (18 September) can go either way.The referendum will also have an impact on other independence-minded regions in the EU, such as Catalonia in Spain and Flanders in Belgium.Scotland will set a precedent for how Brussels deals with territories breaking off from an EU member state.
Aye or nay
Any person over 16 who resides in Scotland, irrespective of their nationality, will be allowed to answer the question: “Should Scotland be an independent country?”Several foreign students and an English shopkeeper told this website they will not cast their vote, however, because this is a “Scottish matter”.But David Warren, a 50-year old accountant who is originally from Trinidad and has been living in Edinburgh for over 20 years, said he will vote yes “because I want Scotland to experience what my home country experienced in 1962 when it became independent from the UK”.Alfred P., a 47-year old gas engineer from Dundee, told this website that he will “definitely vote no, mega-no”, because he is afraid of what a nationalist government led by Alex Salmond may do. “I don’t want my country to turn into a dictatorship, into another Zimbabwe,” he said.Tom Gallagher, an Edinburgh-based political scientist who in 2009 published a book on Scottish nationalism called "The illusion of freedom", told this website that critics dismissed his warnings at the time about Salmond's quest for independence."I did not think that polarisation within Scotland and discord with the rest of the UK would intensify so quickly," Gallagher said.In a televised debate against the chief No-campaigner Alistair Darling, Salmond on Sunday said that he is aiming for a “substantial majority” and promised to end the division after the referendum.“If we win, there will cease to be a 'Yes' campaign and a 'No' campaign - there will be a Team Scotland,” he told the BBC.Darling for his part warned that if voters say yes to independence, “there is no way back” and that breaking the 307-year old union would come with “risks to jobs, to the funding of pensions and the health service, uncertainty about the currency.”The government in London meanwhile has promised to give back more powers to the Scottish government if it stays in the union.Darling said the details of what this further devolution of powers would entail will have to be proposed by the three parties that are against independence - the Conservative Party, Labour and the Liberal-Democrats.
Independence lite and Europe
Outside observers are likely to be surprised to find out that even if Scotland votes in favour of independence, it still wants to keep the queen and the British pound.“It is independence lite, the diet version. And that is a conscious choice of the Scottish Nationalist Party,” says Daniel Kenealy from the University of Edinburgh.He said that the SNP for decades only managed to convince around 35 percent of the electorate to back the independence cause. So in a bid to get the undecided on board, Salmond promised that they will keep the pound, the queen and a close cooperation with the British army.As for the EU, Kenealy said it has a less negative image in Scotland than in the rest of the UK because of the agricultural subsidies and structural funds that have poured into many constituencies.“The main political forces in Scotland - SNP and Labour - are much less eurosceptic than the Conservatives,” he said.The main grievance in Scotland is the relationship with London, not Brussels, with the parallelism that Salmond wants to get back powers from London or break away from Britain just as Cameron tries to get back powers from Brussels or leave the EU.
It’s the economy, stupid
Much of the campaign has revolved around Scotland’s offshore oil and gas reserves and how it will manage to keep and even increase welfare spending and free education.Salmond has spoken of a “seamless” transition of 18 months in which he will negotiate the terms of separation with London and also negotiate EU membership.But EU membership talks are unlikely to be wrapped up that quickly, with another transitional agreement likely to be put in place until 2020. Over that period, London will still represent Scotland in the EU.During the transition phase, London may also cut back on the subsidies it transfers to Edinburgh each year, while uncertainty about the legal status and the currency might scare off investors.Leading economists oversea are at odds over the perspectives of an independent Scotland.Joseph Stiglitz has countered the view of fellow Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, who recently warned that an independent Scotland would face “huge risks” of which voters should be “very afraid.”Stiglitz agreed that there would be risks in the event of a Yes vote, but argued that the risks of Scotland remaining in the union and UK leaving the EU would be “significantly greater”.One way or another, Edinburgh University lecturer Kenealy predicts dire times ahead for the Scottish public finances.“If we vote 'No' there will be cuts to the Scottish budget by the UK government as austerity continues. If we vote 'Yes' then an independent Scotland would likely have to raise taxes or cut expenditure just to balance the books,” Kenealy concludes.
MUSLIM NATIONS (SLAUGHTERED BY NUKES FOR COMING AGAINST ISRAEL)
EZEKIEL 36:4-5
5 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Surely in the fire (NUCLEAR BOMBS) of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea,(ARAB-MUSLIMS) which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.
6 Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury,(OF MY ANGER) because ye have borne the shame of the heathen:
7 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I have lifted up mine hand, Surely the heathen that are (Round) about you,(ARAB-MUSLIMS) they shall bear their shame.(AND BE NUKED)
EZEKIEL 35:9-11
9 I will make thee perpetual desolations, and thy (ARABS) cities shall not return: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
10 Because thou (ARABS) hast said, These two nations (ISRAEL & JUDAH) and these two countries (ISRAEL & JUDAH) shall be mine, and we (ARABS) will possess it; whereas the LORD was there:
11 Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will even do according to thine anger, and according to thine envy (GELIOUSY) which thou hast used out of thy hatred against them;(ISRAELIS) and I will make myself known among them, when I have judged thee.(ARABS)
EZEKIEL 38:1-12
1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog,(RULER) the land of Magog,(RUSSIA) the chief prince of Meshech (MOSCOW) and Tubal,(TOBOLSK) and prophesy against him,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog,(LEADER OF RUSSIA) the chief prince of Meshech(MOSCOW) and Tubal:TOBOLSK)
4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws,(GOD FORCES THE RUSSIA-MUSLIMS TO MARCH) and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia,(IRAN,IRAQ) Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 Gomer,(GERMANY) and all his bands; the house of Togarmah (TURKEY) of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.(AFRICAN MUSLIMS,SUDAN,TUNESIA ETC)
7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.(RUSSIA-EGYPT AND MUSLIMS)
10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages;(ISRAEL) I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
12 To take a spoil,(OIL IS IN SPOIL) and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
EZEKIEL 39:1-8,11-21
1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog,(LEADER OF RUSSIA) and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech (MOSCOW) and Tubal: (TUBOLSK)
2 And I will turn thee back,(RUSSIA-ARAB MUSLIM ISRAEL HATERS) and leave but the sixth part of thee,(5/6TH OR 300 MILLION DEAD RUSSIAN/ARAB/MUSLIMS I BELIEVE) and will cause thee to come up from the north parts,(RUSSIA) and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel:
3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.
4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands,( ARABS) and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.
5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.
6 And I will send a fire on Magog,(NUCLEAR ATOMIC BOMB) and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.
8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken.
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog (RUSSIA/ARAB/MUSLIMS) a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers (EAST OF THE DEAD SEA IN JORDAN VALLEY) on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog (RUSSIAN) and all his multitude:(ARAB/MUSLIM HORDE) and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.(BURIEL SITE OF THE 300 MILLION,RUSSIAN/ARAB/MUSLIMS)
12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.(OF ISRAEL)
13 Yea, all the people of the land (OF ISRAEL) shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I (GOD-JESUS) shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD.
14 And they shall sever out men of continual employment,(NUCLEAR ATOMIC BOMB EXPERTS) passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search.
15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man’s bone, then shall he set up a sign by it,(WON'T TOUCH IT) till the buriers have buried it (PROPERLY) in the valley of Hamongog.(RUSSIA/ARAB/MUSLIMS NEW BURIEL SITE)(EAST OF THE DEAD SEA IN THE JORDAN VALLEY)
16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.(OF THE ISRAEL-GOD HATERS)
17 And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; Speak unto every feathered fowl,(500 MILLION MIGRATING BIRDS THREW ISRAEL EVERY SPRING,FALL) and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood.(OF THE RUSSIAN/ARAB/MUSLIM ARMIES)
18 Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan.
19 And ye (MIGRATING BIRDS IN ISRAEL) shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you.(RUSSIAN/ARAB/MUSLIM ISRAEL HATERS)
20 Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord GOD.
21 And I (GOD-JESUS) will set my glory among the heathen,(WORLD NATIONS) and all the heathen (WORLD NATIONS) shall see my judgment that I have executed,(AGAINST ISRAELS ENEMIES) and my (GODS) hand that I have laid upon them.(ISRAELS HATER ENEMIES)
JEREMEIAH 49:35-37 (IN IRAN AT THE BUSHEHR OR ARAK NUKE SITE SOME BELIEVE)
35 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will break the bow of Elam,(IRAN/BUSHEHR NUCLEAR SITE) the chief of their might.(MOST DANGEROUS NUKE SITE IN IRAN)
36 And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven,(IRANIANS SCATTERED OR MASS IMIGARATION) and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come.(WORLD IMMIGRATION)
37 For I will cause Elam (IRAN-BUSHEHR NUKE SITE) to be dismayed before their enemies, and before them that seek their life: and I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger,(ISRAELS NUKES POSSIBLY) saith the LORD; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them:(IRAN AND ITS NUKE SITES DESTROYED)
ISAIAH 17:1,11-14
1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
11 In the day shalt thou make thy plant to grow, and in the morning shalt thou make thy seed to flourish: but the harvest shall be a heap in the day of grief and of desperate sorrow.
12 Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations,(USELESS U.N) that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
14 And behold at evening tide trouble; and before the morning he is not.(ASSAD KILLED IN OVERNIGHT RAID) This is the portion of them that spoil us,(ISRAEL) and the lot of them that rob us.
AMOS 1:5
5 I will break also the bar of Damascus, and cut off the inhabitant from the plain of Aven, and him that holdeth the sceptre from the house of Eden:(IRAQ) and the people of Syria shall go into captivity unto Kir,(JORDAN) saith the LORD.
JEREMEIAH 49:23-27
23 Concerning Damascus.(SYRIA) Hamath is confounded, and Arpad: for they have heard evil tidings: they are fainthearted; there is sorrow on the sea;(WAR SHIPS WITH NUKES COMING ON SYRIA) it cannot be quiet.
24 Damascus is waxed feeble, and turneth herself to flee, and fear hath seized on her: anguish and sorrows have taken her, as a woman in travail.
25 How is the city of praise not left, the city of my joy!
26 Therefore her young men shall fall in her streets, and all the men of war shall be cut off in that day, saith the LORD of hosts.
27 And I will kindle a fire (NUKES OR BOMBS) in the wall of Damascus, and it shall consume the palaces of Benhadad.(ASSADS PALACES POSSIBLY IN DAMASCUS)
PSALMS 83:3-7
3 They (ARABS,MUSLIMS) have taken crafty counsel against thy people,(ISRAEL) and consulted against thy hidden ones.
4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5 For they (MUSLIMS) have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:(TREATIES)
6 The tabernacles of Edom,(JORDAN) and the Ishmaelites;(ARABS) of Moab, PALESTINIANS,JORDAN) and the Hagarenes;(EGYPT)
7 Gebal,(HEZZBALLOH,LEBANON) and Ammon,(JORDAN) and Amalek;(SYRIA,ARABS,SINAI) the Philistines (PALESTINIANS) with the inhabitants of Tyre;(LEBANON)
JEREMIAH 47:1-7
1 The word of the LORD that came to Jeremiah the prophet against the Philistines,(PALESTINIAN/ARABS) before that Pharaoh smote Gaza.
2 Thus saith the LORD; Behold, waters rise up out of the north,(NORTHERN TSUNAMI POSSIBLY) and shall be an overflowing flood, and shall overflow the land, and all that is therein; the city, and them that dwell therein: then the men shall cry, and all the inhabitants of the land shall howl.
3 At the noise of the stamping of the hoofs of his strong horses,(ISRAELS ARMY) at the rushing of his chariots, and at the rumbling of his wheels, the fathers shall not look back to their children for feebleness of hands;(ISRAEL POSSIBLY NUKES GAZA)
4 Because of the day that cometh to spoil all the Philistines,(PALESTINIAN FAKE ARABS) and to cut off from Tyrus and Zidon every helper that remaineth: for the LORD will spoil the Philistines, the remnant of the country of Caphtor.
5 Baldness is come upon Gaza;(NUKED POSSIBLY) Ashkelon is cut off with the remnant of their valley: how long wilt thou cut thyself?
6 O thou sword of the LORD, how long will it be ere thou be quiet? put up thyself into thy scabbard, rest, and be still.
7 How can it be quiet, seeing the LORD hath given it a charge against Ashkelon, and against the sea shore? (MEDITTERANEAN SEA) there hath he appointed it.
EGYPT
ISAIAH 19:1-5
1 The burden of Egypt. Behold, the LORD rideth upon a swift cloud, and shall come into Egypt: and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence, and the heart of Egypt shall melt in the midst of it.
2 And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.
3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.
4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts.
5 And the waters shall fail from the sea, and the river shall be wasted and dried up.
DANIEL 11:40-43
40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south ( EGYPT) push at him:(EU DICTATOR IN ISRAEL) and the king of the north (RUSSIA AND MUSLIM HORDES OF EZEK 38+39) shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.(JORDAN)
42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.
JOEL 2:3,20,30-31
3 A fire(NUCLEAR ATOMIC BOMB) devoureth before them;(RUSSIA-ARABS-MUSLIMS) and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them,(BEFORE THE NUKE GOES OFF) and behind them a desolate wilderness;(AFTER THE ATOMIC BOMB GOES OFF) yea, and nothing shall escape them.(EVERYTHING NUKED)
20 But I will remove far off from you the northern army,(RUSSIA,ARAB,MUSLIMS) and will drive him into a land barren and desolate,(SIBERIAN DESERT) with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things.(FOR COMING AGAINST ISRAEL)
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.(NUCLEAR BOMB)
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
JEREMIAH 8:7
7 Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times;(MIGRATION TIME) and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming;(IN MIGRATION SEASON) but my people know not the judgment of the LORD.(WW3 MIGRATING BIRDS EAT ISRAELS ENEMIES FLESH AND BLOOD)
Turkish reluctance hurts U.S. plans for coalition against Islamic State-Reuters-By Jonny Hogg and Nick Tattersall-SEPT 16,14-YAHOONEWS
ANKARA/ISTANBUL (Reuters) - When Washington takes its bombing campaign against Islamic State fighters into Syria, the most it can probably hope for from one of its closest allies in the region will be grudging consent.Turkey, a NATO member with a big U.S. air base and long borders with both Iraq and Syria, has made clear that it is still unconvinced by U.S. President Barack Obama's plans to bomb Islamic State fighters in two of its neighbors.While Washington won backing last week for a military coalition from 10 Arab nations - Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and six Gulf states including rich rivals Saudi Arabia and Qatar - Turkey attended the talks but did not sign up.President Tayyip Erdogan and Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, architects of a foreign policy which envisages Sunni Muslim Turkey as a regional power, are reluctant to engage in action they fear could strengthen their enemy, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and exacerbate sectarian tensions in Iraq."It's a very complicated balancing act. Turkey is trying to satisfy its U.S. partner without extending full collaboration. They will come under intensifying pressure but will find it very difficult to block U.S. strategy," said Fadi Hakura, Turkey analyst at the London-based think-tank Chatham House."It's a coalition of the unwilling and the apathetic. Turkey and most Arab countries supposedly part of this coalition are deeply skeptical of U.S. intentions in the region."Turkey's role is likely to be limited, U.S. and Turkish officials say, to stemming the flow of foreign fighters crossing its borders, helping cut off Islamic State's finances and providing humanitarian and logistical support.There are no plans, Turkish officials have said, to allow the U.S. air base in the southern town of Incirlik to be used for air strikes. Pro-government newspapers have welcomed Ankara's reluctance, drawing parallels to 2003, when Turkey's parliament rejected a U.S. request to use Turkish territory to invade Iraq.
LONG GAME
"Turkey has to play the long game, and right now the strategy disclosed by the U.S. government does not give confidence that the region will be stabilized," said Sinan Ulgen, head of the Centre for Economics and Foreign Policy Studies in Istanbul."Just hitting ISIS won't solve anything ... The recent history of Western intervention has amply demonstrated this. Look at where Libya stands today, at where Afghanistan stands today, at where Iraq stands today," he said."Islamic State is actually a bigger threat to Turkey than to the United States, so there is every incentive for Ankara to be part of this coalition. But right now there is no big overlap about its strategic direction."When Islamic State fighters surged into northern Iraq in June, they captured 46 Turkish hostages in the city of Mosul, including diplomats, soldiers and children. Turkish officials say the plight of the hostages is one reason they are reluctant to sign on publicly to a campaign against the fighters.But government officials make little secret that their misgivings about U.S. action go deeper than concern for the captives. Davutoglu said last week U.S. action alone would not be enough to bring stability.Some of Erdogan's critics both at home and abroad say the Turkish leader, a moderate Sunni Islamist, has yet to accept that movements like Islamic State are as big a threat as Assad, a member of a Shi'ite-derived sect backed by Shi'ite Iran.Turkey has been one of the leading backers of the opposition to Assad in Syria's civil war, leaving it open to accusations that it turned a blind eye to the rise of radicals among Assad's mainly Sunni Muslim opponents, including Islamic State fighters.It has maintained an open border policy on the Syrian frontier, allowing refugees out and arms and foreign fighters in, in the hope that Assad would quickly fall. With Assad clinging to power and rebels increasingly radicalized, Erdogan's critics say the policy backfired, creating a new threat.Former U.S. ambassador to Turkey Francis Ricciardone told a media call in Washington last week that Turkey, in its eagerness to bolster Assad's opponents, had worked with groups in the past like al Qaeda's Syrian branch al Nusra Front, which Washington considered "beyond the pale".
CONDUIT FOR AID
Ankara rejects any suggestion that it is to blame for Islamic State's rise, and pins responsibility firmly on Assad, for policies that drove Syria's Sunni majority to radicalism."Our position is clear, we are against all forms of radicalization and activity which may affect the stability and prosperity of our region," Davutoglu said on Tuesday during a visit to Cyprus."Those who accuse Turkey ... must know that the main responsibility for all these massacres in the region is the Assad regime, which killed its people and opened the way for radicalization ... as well as the sectarian policies in Iraq."While Turkey is unlikely to allow its bases to be used for U.S. air strikes, it can still play a role in U.S. plans by serving as a conduit for aid to other Sunni opponents of Assad, which Washington sees as a counterforce to Islamic State.Ankara has long called for Washington to do more to help the "moderate" Syrian rebels. One Western diplomat said it was wise of Washington to emphasize that role in dealings with Ankara."Backing the Syrian opposition is key to legitimizing the operations (in Ankara's eyes). So far the U.S. is reading this situation very well," said the diplomat, adding Erdogan would ultimately not want to jeopardize ties with Washington.U.S. officials say they still have a lot to discuss with Turkey, even if it will not lend its bases for an air campaign."There are several issues. One is the foreign fighters. Their border has been quite porous. There has been improvement but additional improvement needs to be made," said an official traveling with Secretary of State John Kerry last week.Another issue is cracking down on oil smuggling, which Washington says is one way Islamic State fighters earn funds.If bombing worsens the refugee crisis, much of that will fall on Turkey's shoulders. Erdogan spoke this week of plans to establish a "buffer zone" along the border, a suggestion that Ankara plans to control future refugee flows more closely.(Writing by Nick Tattersall; Editing by Peter Graff)
U.S. general says cannot rule out larger ground role in Iraq-Reuters-By Phil Stewart-SEPT 16,14-YAHOONEWS
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The most senior U.S. military officer raised the possibility on Tuesday that American troops might need to take on a larger role in Iraq's ground war against Islamic State militants, but the White House stressed they would not deploy on a combat mission.General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the U.S. military's Joint Chiefs of Staff, said there was no intention now to place American military advisers on the ground in direct combat. U.S. assistance is taking other forms, including air strikes.Still, Dempsey outlined scenarios in which he might recommend having U.S. troops do more, potentially accompanying Iraqis during complicated offensives, such as a battle to retake the northern city of Mosul from Islamic State fighters."It could very well be part of that particular mission - to provide close combat advising or accompanying for that mission," Dempsey said.Dempsey acknowledged that Obama's "stated policy is that we will not have U.S. ground forces in direct combat.""But he has told me as well to come back to him on a case-by-case basis," he said.Obama said last week he would lead an alliance to defeat Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria, plunging the United States into a conflict in which nearly every country in the Middle East has a stake.But Obama also ruled out a combat mission, saying "we will not get dragged into another ground war in Iraq." How exactly America's role might evolve in the open-ended conflict remains unclear, however.
Responding to Dempsey's comments, the White House said Obama’s military advisers had to plan for many possibilities and that overall policy had not changed - that Obama would not deploy U.S. troops in a combat role in Iraq or Syria.White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters that Dempsey was "referring to a hypothetical scenario in which there might be a future situation where he might make a tactical recommendation to the president as it relates to ground troops."Dempsey's spokesman also issued a statement stressing that the four-star general's exchange in the Senate was not about "employing U.S. ground combat units in Iraq."Dempsey was testifying before the Senate Armed Services Committee, along with U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, as the Obama administration makes its case to Congress for broadening operations against the Sunni militants, which would include U.S. air strikes in Syria for the first time.
NO "SHOCK AND AWE' IN SYRIA
The U.S. military's Central Command is due to brief Obama on its plans on Wednesday. Hagel said those plans envision striking the militant group's safe havens in Syria to knock out infrastructure, logistics and command capabilities.Dempsey said the strikes would degrade the group's capabilities as broader efforts get under way, including training of more than 5,000 Syrian rebels."This won't look like a 'shock and awe' campaign because that's simply not how (the Islamic State militants' group) is organized. But it will be a persistent and sustainable campaign," Dempsey told the Senate Armed Services Committee."Shock and awe" was a term popularly used to describe the initial air assault on Baghdad in the U.S. campaign to oust Saddam Hussein in 2003, and refers to use of overwhelming force to undermine an enemy's will to fight.Congress is expected to approve this week a request from Obama for authorization to arm and train moderate Syrian rebels, one part of his program.Still, Hagel acknowledged the number of Syrian fighters that could be trained over the course of the year would only put the opposition on a path to roll back Islamic State fighters."Five thousand alone is not going to be able to turn the tide. We recognize that," Hagel said.The Senate hearing was repeatedly interrupted by anti-war protesters, shouting slogans such as, "There is no military solution." One protester was escorted out of the room while holding a sign that read: "More war = More extremism."Senator Angus King of Maine, expressing concern that the United States would be drawn into interminable fights against extremist groups around the world from Iraq to Syria to Africa, said: "This is geopolitical Wack-a-mole."(Additional reporting by Missy Ryan and Steve Holland; Editing by Bill Trott, Susan Heavey, Bernadette Baum and Ken Wills)
Nato describes Russia and Islamic State as main threats-15.09.14 @ 16:02-By Andrew Rettman
BRUSSELS - Nato has described Russia and Islamic State (IS) as the main threats to Western security, but says it can still talk to Russia despite its invasion of Ukraine.Nato secretary general Anders Fogh Rasmussen likened Russia to IS in a speech at the Carnegie Europe think tank in Brussels on Monday (15 September).He said: “Russia considers Nato, and the West more broadly, as an adversary. Russia has trampled all the rules and commitments that have kept peace in Europe and beyond since the end of the Cold War … from Moldova to Georgia, and now in Ukraine, Russia has used economic pressure and military actions to produce instability, to manufacture conflicts”.He noted that IS “risks exporting terrorists to our countries … [it is] virulent, violent, and viciously anti-Western. They will grasp every opportunity to undermine our values”.Referring to Russia and IS together, he added: “We are on the frontline of a new battle – a new battle between tolerance and fanaticism, between democracy and totalitarianism, between open and closed societies. In this new age of unrest and revisionism, we must stand strong and we must stand united as a force for freedom".Answering questions at the Carnegie event, Rasmussen noted that the two threats are different, however.He said Russia is trying to create a frozen conflict in east Ukraine to prevent it joining the EU or Nato and that “we should never accept that”.But he ruled out use of force to halt Russian aggression in Ukraine.“I don’t think Russia poses an imminent threat to Nato allies,” he said.“For Ukraine, we do believe the right way forward is a political solution and while it’s clear Russia has violated international norms and rules, I still think Russia is capable of this [a political solution] if they decide to do so”.The Nato head advocated use of force against IS by what he called a “coalition of the willing” inside Nato.The US-led group includes six EU countries - Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, Poland, and the UK - as well as Australia, Canada, and Turkey.Rasmussen added that UN rules give them the right to attack IS to stop “genocide” in Iraq and Syria and as an act of “self-defence”.“As far as I can see, there is a basis in the fundamental UN charter principles to conduct a military operation against ISIS [an alternative name for IS]”, he said.He urged the UN to do more on post-conflict state-building to prevent the kind of disorder which erupted in Libya after Nato strikes toppled the old regime.He also excused Turkey for not letting the anti-IS group use its air bases, noting that IS is holding hostage several dozen Turkish diplomats.“I have to say, I consider Turkey a staunch ally”, he said.Asked about Scotland’s Nato prospects if it splits from the UK in this week's referendum, Rasmussen said it would have to reapply to join.“If a new country wants to join Nato it must apply to join and such an application will be addressed in the same way all applications are dealt with and, eventually, it will require consensus, unanimity in the alliance to accept a new member”.He added that Nato has not discussed the Scottish question.It normally takes Nato aspirant states several years to join. But he hinted that Scotland’s application might proceed quickly, because pace of progress is based on compliance with technical criteria.
Islamic State: Obama plan to cut pipeline for US terrorist recruits-Obama administration launches pilot program with local and religious leaders to build a 'broad network of community partnerships to keep our nation safe.'Christian Science Monitor-By Harry Bruinius September 15, 2014 6:15 PM-YAHOONEWS
As terrorist organizations step up their efforts to recruit new fighters from the West, the Obama administration announced Monday it would begin partnering with community and religious leaders across the nation to help identify home-grown threats.Attorney General Eric Holder said that the US government would begin to build a “broad network of community partnerships to keep our nation safe” in a Justice Department video released Monday. Through a series of new pilot programs in cities across the US, the attorney general said, law enforcement officials would begin teaming with grassroots community and religious groups to help prevent more Americans from joining terrorist organizations such as the self-described Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL.A number of American passport holders have already been killed by US bombs in the growing international fight against IS, officials say, and a hundred more US citizens are suspected of traveling to the Middle East with the hope of joining terrorist networks.“We have established processes for detecting American extremists who attempt to join terror groups abroad,” Mr. Holder said. “And we have engaged in extensive outreach to communities here in the US so we can work with them to identify threats before they emerge, to disrupt homegrown terrorists, and to apprehend would-be violent extremists.”The pilot programs were announced just days after extremists released another video showing the murder and beheading of British aid worker David Haines, and just one week after the rogue organization released a video showing the murder of American journalist Steven Sotloff. British Prime Minister David Cameron and US President Obama have vowed to “destroy” IS and cut off its efforts to woo Western youth.But the terror organization has also released other videos, specifically targeting young, disaffected Westerners. In one IS recruitment video titled “There is no life without jihad,” posted this past June, armed fighters from the UK and Australia offer deeply emotional testimonies to potential recruits.“Oh my brothers living in the West, I know how you feel ... In the heart, you feel depressed.... The cure for depression is jihad,” according to a translation offered by The Middle East Media Research Institute in Washington.The impact of such efforts may be relatively small in the US, but last week, a 19-year-old nurse’s aide from Colorado, Shannon Conley, pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization. The Muslim convert, who took the name Halima, was arrested in April at Denver International Airport with a one-way ticket to the Middle East. She planned to help treat wounded ISIL fighters, authorities said.And a number of Americans from the Somali community in Minnesota have been fighting for extremist causes in Syria, officials say, including Douglas McAuthur McCain, another Western convert to Islam, killed this summer while fighting for IS.In October, the White House will host a “Countering Violent Extremism” summit to discuss the phenomenon, Holder said. And since 2012, the Justice Department already has hosted about 1,700 meetings with community leaders on countering terrorism.“It’s interesting that they’re doing this now after a lengthy, lengthy period of surveilling American Muslims,” says Zead Ramadan, the former president of the Council on American-Islamic Relations of New York, and a current board member. “It wasn’t extremely effective, if they thought they were going to uncover some kind of wild and crazy elements.”Indeed, the attorney general’s announcement of the grassroots-level initiative comes amid widespread suspicion among many of the country’s estimated 5 million American Muslims, who continue to bristle under the perception of being part of a violent faith.In New York, the NYPD spy unit had sent “rakers” and “crawlers” into Muslim shops, mosques, and civic organizations, as well as installing surveillance cameras in mostly Muslim neighborhoods in New Jersey. The unit, which never brought a case after more than a decade of investigations, was disbanded earlier this year, and New York City officials may be trying to settle a civil suit brought by Muslim residents.“I applaud these new sorts of programs,” says Mr. Ramadan of the pilot initiatives announced by Holder on Monday. “These are the kinds of programs that I think helps to create an understanding, a bond, a communications cycle between government and law enforcement and the leaders of our communities.”Ramadan’s organization already has attended leadership seminars with the Department of Homeland Security, which he described as “healthy.”“No one that I know appreciates anything about ISIS or ISIL or whatever you call it,” he says. “Everyone thinks they’re murderous, insane lunatics, like everyone else in the world.”“The only people attracted to them are people who are terribly disturbed or terribly angry,” Ramadan says, “and so religion doesn’t affect them. They just use it as an excuse to pursue their anger and their psychological disturbance – that’s really beyond a belief in God.”
DISEASES
REVELATION 6:7-8
7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse:(CHLORES GREEN) and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword,(WEAPONS) and with hunger,(FAMINE) and with death,(INCURABLE DISEASES) and with the beasts of the earth.(ANIMAL TO HUMAN DISEASE).
DRUG PUSHERS AND ADDICTS
1 PET 5:8
8 Be sober,(NOT DRUGED UP OR ALCOHOLICED) be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
REVELATION 18:23
23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries (DRUGS) were all nations deceived.
REVELATION 9:21
21 Neither repented they of their murders,(KILLING) nor of their sorceries (DRUG ADDICTS AND DRUG PUSHERS), nor of their fornication,(SEX OUTSIDE MARRIAGE OR PROSTITUTION FOR MONEY) nor of their thefts.(STEALING)
EU urges stronger Ebola response from member states-Today @ 09:26-SEPT 16,14-EUOBSERVER-By Nikolaj Nielsen
BRUSSELS - The EU is pressing member states to step up efforts against Ebola as the epidemic continues to spread through parts of west Africa.On Monday (15 September), the EU commissioners for health, development, and humanitarian aid urged member states to strengthen support to the region “where the situation continues to deteriorate”.The commissioners said the countries need effective treatment centres and more health workers.“The EU is firmly committed to supporting the affected countries and their development in the immediate and longer-term,” said the commissioners in a joint statement.The EU pledged €150 million to fight the disease and has sent in mobile laboratories to diagnose and confirm cases as well as to train laboratory technicians.But a persistent lack of supplies and staff means aid workers on the ground are having turn away patients in an outbreak which has so far killed over 2,400 people, primarily in Sierra Leone, Liberia, and Guinea.Although the survival rate is at 47 percent, higher than previous outbreaks, the speed and breadth of the spread has caught many by surprise with some infections now being reported in Nigeria and Senegal.Overwhelmed aid organisations complain that a piecemeal response from the governments dealing with the epidemic as well as from the international community has made the relief effort more difficult.
Earlier this month, Sierra Leone proposed to lock down the country for three days starting on 19 September, which the charity Medecins Sans Frontiers says will only exacerbate the level of mistrust between patients and health workers.Over the weekend, Liberia’s president sacked 10 high-ranking officials for having left the country.Governments have also imposed travel restrictions and border closures, while airlines have grounded numerous flights.Ghana’s president John Dramani Mahama described some of the measures as a “panic” response, which he says has undermined efforts to fight the disease.Meanwhile, the United Nations Security Council is set to convene an emergency session on Thursday in Geneva to discuss international efforts to contain the epidemic.“It is crucial that council members discuss the status of the epidemic, confer on a coordinated international response and begin the process of marshalling our collective resources to stop the spread of the disease," said the US ambassador to the UN Samantha Powers, reports Reuters.The UN says its needs at least €465 million to purchase supplies and hire new doctors to send to the regions affected.The Americans, for their part, are also set to deploy some 3,000 US troops in the area.US officials say the troops will help train new health workers, construct facilities, distribute home health care kits, establish a joint command base in Monrovia, and conduct an information campaign on how to handle suspected cases.US president Barack Obama on Tuesday is also set to ask Congress for $88 million to help fight the outbreak.
Citing security threat, Obama expands U.S. role fighting Ebola-Reuters-By Jeff Mason and James Harding Giahyue-SEPT 16,14-YAHOONEWS
ATLANTA/MONROVIA (Reuters) - President Barack Obama on Tuesday called West Africa's deadly Ebola outbreak a looming threat to global security and announced a major expansion of the U.S. role in trying to halt its spread, including deployment of 3,000 troops to the region."The reality is that this epidemic is going to get worse before it gets better," Obama said at the Atlanta headquarters of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)."But, right now, the world still has an opportunity to save countless lives. Right now, the world has the responsibility to act, to step up and to do more. The United States of America intends to do more," he added.The U.S. plan, a dramatic expansion of Washington's initial response last week, won praise from the U.N. World Health Organization, aid workers and officials in West Africa. Experts said it was still not enough to contain the epidemic, which is rapidly spreading and has caused already-weak local public health systems to buckle under the strain of fighting it.U.S. officials said the focus of the military deployment would be Liberia, a nation founded by freed American slaves that is the hardest hit of the countries affected by the crisis.Obama's plan calls for sending 3,000 troops, including engineers and medical personnel; establishing a regional command and control center in Liberia's capital, Monrovia, commanded by Major General Darryl Williams, who arrived there on Tuesday; and forming a staging area in Senegal to help distribute personnel and aid on the ground.It also calls for building 17 treatment centers with 100 beds each; placing U.S. Public Health Service personnel in new field hospitals in Liberia; training thousands of healthcare workers for six months or longer; and creating an "air bridge" to get health workers and medical supplies into West Africa more quickly.Late on Tuesday, an Obama administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the Defense Department would ask Congress to approve another $500 million in funds to be reallocated from fiscal 2014 to help cover the mission's costs.Added to the $500 billion sought earlier to be moved from the previous fiscal year for Ebola and fighting Islamic State militants in Iraq, up to $1 billion would be available to be spent on the Ebola response.This was separate from $175 million already dedicated to the effort, and $88 million being sought in Congress this week as a stopgap measure, the official noted.The worst Ebola outbreak since the disease was identified in 1976 has already killed nearly 2,500 people and is threatening to spread elsewhere in Africa.Obama said "the world is looking to us" to take the lead against Ebola, but urged other nations also to take action because the epidemic is "spiraling out of control" and "people are literally dying in the streets."The White House said the troops will not be responsible for direct patient care. Amid concern about infections, Obama said the "safety of our personnel will remain a top priority." He also said the "chances of an Ebola outbreak here in the United States are extremely low."
GLOBAL SECURITY
Obama said that if the outbreak is not stopped now, hundreds of thousands of people may become infected, "with profound political and economic and security implications for all of us.""This is an epidemic that is not just a threat to regional security. It’s a potential threat to global security, if these countries break down, if their economies break down, if people panic. That has profound effects on all of us, even if we are not directly contracting the disease," Obama added.The WHO praised the U.S. plan for providing support to the United Nations and other international partners to help authorities in Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Nigeria and Senegal contain the outbreak."This massive ramp-up of support from the United States is precisely the kind of transformational change we need to get a grip on the outbreak and begin to turn it around," Dr. Margaret Chan, WHO's director-general, said in a statement.Earlier, a senior WHO official said the Ebola outbreak requires a much faster response to limit its spread to tens of thousands of cases."We don't know where the numbers are going on this," WHO Assistant Director-General Bruce Aylward told a news conference in Geneva, calling the crisis "unparalleled in modern times."The initial U.S. response last week had focused on providing funding and supplies, drawing criticism from aid workers for not deploying manpower as in other disasters like earthquakes.Obama's announcement marks his second within a week of a new mission for the U.S. military, following last week's speech outlining a broad escalation of the campaign against the Islamic State militant group in Iraq and Syria.During a congressional hearing in Washington, CDC official Beth Bell said the "window of opportunity" to control Ebola's spread is closing, while both Democratic and Republican lawmakers voiced support for funding the fight against the virus."We need to declare a war on Ebola," Republican Senator Jerry Moran said.
'WELCOME NEWS'
Liberians hailed the word that U.S. troops were coming, recalling a military operation in 2003 that helped stabilize the country during a civil war."This is welcome news. This is what we expected from the U.S. a long time ago," Anthony Mulbah, a student at the University of Monrovia, said in the dilapidated oceanfront capital. "The U.S. remains a strong partner to Liberia."In Liberia, a shortage of space in clinics for isolating victims means patients are being turned away, then infecting others.Ebola spreads rapidly, causes fever and uncontrolled bleeding.The virus has so far killed 2,461 people, half of the 4,985 people infected, and the death toll has doubled in the past month, WHO's Aylward said.The outbreak was first confirmed in the remote forests of southeastern Guinea in March, then spread across Sierra Leone and Liberia. A handful of Ebola deaths have been recorded in Nigeria, Africa's most populous country.The disease has crippled weak health systems, infecting hundreds of local staff in a region chronically short of doctors. The WHO has said that 500 to 600 more foreign experts and at least 10,000 more local health workers are needed."It is not enough to provide protective clothing when you don't have the people who will wear them," Ghana's President John Dramani Mahama said during a visit to Sierra Leone.The U.S. intervention comes as the pace of cash and emergency supplies dispatched to the region accelerates.Before Tuesday, Washington had sent about 100 health officials and committed some $175 million in aid. Other nations, including Cuba, China, France and Britain; have pledged medical workers, health centers and other forms of support.Critics, including regional leaders, former U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan and Peter Piot, one of the scientists who discovered Ebola in 1976; have said international efforts so far have fallen woefully short."It is now up to other governments to equally scale up their support in Sierra Leone and Guinea," Piot, now director of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, told Reuters.Many neighboring African countries have closed their borders and canceled flights to affected countries, making the humanitarian response more difficult.A draft U.N. Security Council resolution on Ebola, obtained by Reuters, calls on U.N. member states, particularly in the region, to lift general travel and border restrictions. The resolution could win approval later this week.(Additional reporting by Tom Miles and Stephanie Nebehay in Geneva, Umaru Fofana in Freetown, Alphonso Toweh, David Lewis in Dakar, Sharon Begley in New York and Roberta Rampton, Susan Heavey and Eric Walsh in Washington; Writing by Will Dunham; Editing by Daniel Flynn, Peter Graff and Jonathan Oatis)
EARTHQUAKES
ISAIAH 42:15
15 I will make waste mountains and hills, and dry up all their herbs; and I will make the rivers islands, and I will dry up the pools.
MATTHEW 24:7-8
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
MARK 13:8
8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:(ETHNIC GROUP AGAINST ETHNIC GROUP) and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.
LUKE 21:11
11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places,(DIFFERNT PLACES AT THE SAME TIME) and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
1 Day, Magnitude 2.5+ Worldwide
39 earthquakes - DownloadUpdated: 2014-09-16 20:59:22 UTC-04:00Showing event times using Local System Time (UTC-04:00)39 earthquakes in map area
4.3 34km S of Jarm, Afghanistan 2014-09-16 19:11:17 UTC-04:00 200.1 km
4.5 122km SW of Raoul Island, New Zealand 2014-09-16 18:56:45 UTC-04:00 213.6 km
4.0 156km NNW of Saumlaki, Indonesia 2014-09-16 18:40:25 UTC-04:00 123.3 km
3.3 1km SE of Medford, Oklahoma 2014-09-16 18:35:04 UTC-04:00 5.0 km
3.0 71km N of Brenas, Puerto Rico 2014-09-16 17:37:56 UTC-04:00 38.0 km
5.1 108km WNW of Hofn, Iceland 2014-09-16 17:34:15 UTC-04:00 5.0 km
3.0 5km NNE of Fajardo, Puerto Rico 2014-09-16 16:58:50 UTC-04:00 108.0 km
3.1 42km ENE of Old Iliamna, Alaska 2014-09-16 16:53:45 UTC-04:00 194.3 km
2.6 68km ESE of Lakeview, Oregon 2014-09-16 16:34:53 UTC-04:00 0.0 km
2.7 3km S of Cobb, California 2014-09-16 16:23:31 UTC-04:00 2.2 km
4.7 108km WSW of Santa Genoveva de Docorodo, Colombia 2014-09-16 UTC-04:00 33.9 km
3.4 191km SE of Kodiak, Alaska 2014-09-16 16:10:59 UTC-04:00 20.7 km
3.7 91km N of Road Town, British Virgin Islands 2014-09-16 16:03:50 UTC-04:00 25.0 km
2.7 40km E of Currant, Nevada 2014-09-16 16:00:49 UTC-04:00 4.5 km
2.6 24km E of Cherokee, Oklahoma 2014-09-16 15:21:06 UTC-04:00 5.0 km
5.3 68km WSW of Kuril'sk, Russia 2014-09-16 14:39:43 UTC-04:00 21.1 km
4.4 71km ESE of San Felipe, Mexico 2014-09-16 12:51:14 UTC-04:00 14.1 km
5.1 73km SE of Punta de Burica, Panama 2014-09-16 12:49:35 UTC-04:00 41.6 km
4.3 120km E of Sarangani, Philippines 2014-09-16 11:51:51 UTC-04:00 75.7 km
4.2 76km NNE of Myitkyina, Burma 2014-09-16 11:34:04 UTC-04:00 37.2 km
3.0 39km SSW of Anchor Point, Alaska 2014-09-16 11:22:28 UTC-04:00 55.9 km
4.7 128km S of Akureyri, Iceland 2014-09-16 10:47:58 UTC-04:00 7.3 km
2.5 10km WNW of Yale, Oklahoma 2014-09-16 10:31:32 UTC-04:00 7.4 km
2.8 10km WNW of Yale, Oklahoma 2014-09-16 09:49:15 UTC-04:00 7.3 km
2.9 14km ESE of Charlotte Amalie, U.S. Virgin Islands 2014-09-16 09:38:32 UTC-04:00 130.0 km
2.5 15km ENE of Stillwater, Oklahoma 2014-09-16 09:38:12 UTC-04:00 7.0 km
5.3 190km SSW of Ndoi Island, Fiji 2014-09-16 09:00:20 UTC-04:00 589.5 km
3.0 26km SSW of Morton, Washington 2014-09-16 08:43:41 UTC-04:00 14.9 km
2.7 103km SSW of Homer, Alaska 2014-09-16 07:50:16 UTC-04:00 16.3 km
2.5 71km SE of Lakeview, Oregon 2014-09-16 07:10:05 UTC-04:00 0.5 km
3.1 17km E of Road Town, British Virgin Islands 2014-09-16 06:49:49 UTC-04:00 111.0 km
3.3 171km NNW of Tuktoyaktuk, Canada 2014-09-16 05:36:32 UTC-04:00 10.0 km
4.4 11km N of Aratoca, Colombia 2014-09-16 05:25:44 UTC-04:00 168.4 km
3.9 15km NE of Noatak, Alaska 2014-09-16 05:05:19 UTC-04:00 14.9 km
2.7 21km SW of La Quinta, California 2014-09-15 23:59:36 UTC-04:00 12.4 km
5.6 2km WNW of Iwai, Japan 2014-09-15 23:28:31 UTC-04:00 53.9 km
5.6 189km ESE of Kimbe, Papua New Guinea 2014-09-15 22:35:19 UTC-04:00 25.1 km
2.9 39km NW of San Antonio, Puerto Rico 2014-09-15 22:12:47 UTC-04:00 96.0 km
5.2 38km SW of Ndoi Island, Fiji 2014-09-15 21:08:19 UTC-04:00 619.6 km
