Wednesday, April 02, 2014

8.0 QUAKE HITS CHILE UNLESS THEY MAKE IT LOWER

JEWISH KING JESUS IS COMING AT THE RAPTURE FOR US IN THE CLOUDS-DON'T MISS IT FOR THE WORLD.THE BIBLE TAKEN LITERALLY- WHEN THE PLAIN SENSE MAKES GOOD SENSE-SEEK NO OTHER SENSE-LEST YOU END UP IN NONSENSE.

EARTHQUAKES

ISAIAH 42:15
15  I will make waste mountains and hills, and dry up all their herbs; and I will make the rivers islands, and I will dry up the pools.

MATTHEW 24:7-8
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

MARK 13:8
8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:(ETHNIC GROUP AGAINST ETHNIC GROUP) and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.

LUKE 21:11
11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places,(DIFFERNT PLACES AT THE SAME TIME) and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

FUTHUR UPDATED AFTERSCHOCK QUAKES IN CHILE AT 9:10AM APR,2,14

1 Day, Magnitude 2.5+ Worldwide

65 earthquakes - DownloadUpdated: 2014-04-02 08:08:10 UTC-05:00Showing event times using Local System Time (UTC-05:00)65 earthquakes in map area
  1. 4.4 75km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-02 07:30:25 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  2. 4.2 76km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-02 06:53:10 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  3. 4.1 8km SSE of Depok, Indonesia 2014-04-02 06:21:57 UTC-05:00 13.8 km
  4. 5.1 91km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-02 06:11:33 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  5. 5.4 92km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-02 06:07:30 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  6. 4.8 Owen Fracture Zone region 2014-04-02 05:36:41 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  7. 2.7 80km SSE of King Salmon, Alaska 2014-04-02 05:25:33 UTC-05:00 100.0 km
  8. 4.2 31km NNE of Niltepec, Mexico 2014-04-02 03:51:38 UTC-05:00 120.8 km
  9. 5.0 75km W of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-02 03:25:50 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  10. 2.7 2km NW of Choctaw, Oklahoma 2014-04-02 02:10:03 UTC-05:00 4.9 km
  11. 5.1 27km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-02 02:03:40 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  12. 5.2 77km W of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-02 01:29:15 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  13. 2.6 28km N of Brenas, Puerto Rico 2014-04-02 01:05:50 UTC-05:00 87.0 km
  14. 5.1 70km NNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-02 01:04:10 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  15. 5.0 93km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-02 00:51:00 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  16. 2.5 45km WSW of Willow, Alaska 2014-04-02 00:27:07 UTC-05:00 59.0 km
  17. 4.7 55km WSW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-02 00:09:19 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  18. 5.0 115km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-02 00:02:49 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  19. 5.8 74km W of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 23:46:18 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  20. 2.7 2km SSE of Langston, Oklahoma 2014-04-01 23:20:32 UTC-05:00 6.4 km
  21. 5.1 93km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 23:19:48 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  22. 4.9 82km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 23:16:10 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  23. 4.9 88km NW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 23:13:07 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
UPDATED AFTERSCHOCK QUAKES FROM LAST NIGHTS 8:23PM 8.2 OR 8.0 QUAKE IN CHILE.I HEARD 2 PEOPLE ARE DEAD SO FAR.UPDATED AS OF 12:40AM APR 2,14

1 Day, Magnitude 2.5+ Worldwide

50 earthquakes - DownloadUpdated: 2014-04-01 23:33:54 UTC-05:00Showing event times using Local System Time (UTC-05:00)50 earthquakes in map area
  1. 4.9 88km NW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 23:13:07 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  2. 2.7 118km NW of Arctic Village, Alaska 2014-04-01 23:07:32 UTC-05:00 33.4 km
  3. 4.7 94km NNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 22:51:02 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  4. 5.2 89km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 22:40:16 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  5. 4.5 38km W of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 22:20:45 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  6. 2.5 21km NE of Soledad, California 2014-04-01 22:07:59 UTC-05:00 5.7 km
  7. 5.0 108km SSW of Arica, Chile 2014-04-01 21:52:25 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  8. 2.6 8km NNE of Pahala, Hawaii 2014-04-01 21:51:58 UTC-05:00 0.7 km
  9. 5.1 196km W of Lata, Solomon Islands 2014-04-01 21:51:29 UTC-05:00 26.2 km
  10. 4.9 100km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 21:32:47 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  11. 4.8 93km SSW of Arica, Chile 2014-04-01 21:27:19 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  12. 2.5 45km W of Valdez, Alaska 2014-04-01 21:24:30 UTC-05:00 0.1 km
  13. 2.5 38km NNE of Nikiski, Alaska 2014-04-01 20:51:05 UTC-05:00 65.5 km
  14. 4.8 97km SSW of Arica, Chile 2014-04-01 20:33:56 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  15. 5.2 75km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 20:29:41 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  16. 4.7 64km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 20:22:55 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  17. 5.3 111km NW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 20:20:58 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  18. 3.1 24km SSE of Medford, Oklahoma 2014-04-01 19:56:25 UTC-05:00 5.0 km
  19. 3.1 61km ENE of Cantwell, Alaska 2014-04-01 19:51:49 UTC-05:00 16.2 km
  20. 5.4 46km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 19:37:49 UTC-05:00 21.5 km
  21. 5.5 56km W of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 19:33:45 UTC-05:00 12.6 km
  22. 5.6 70km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 19:24:45 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  23. 5.7 95km NW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 19:06:44 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  24. 5.8 87km WNW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 19:03:12 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  25. 6.2 88km N of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 18:58:00 UTC-05:00 18.1 km
  26. 5.7 92km NW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 18:56:47 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  27. 8.2 95km NW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 18:46:46 UTC-05:00 20.1 km
  28. 5.3 Southern Mid-Atlantic Ridge 2014-04-01 18:13:04 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
TSNAMI WARNING HAS BEEN SENT OUT..FOR AT LEAST 4 COUNTRIES.AND COLUMBIA.THE TSUNAMI WAVES WERE 6 TO 7 FEET SO FAR.

Massive 8.0 quake off Chile coast sparks tsunami
SANTIAGO Wed Apr 2, 2014 2:23am BST


(Reuters) - A major earthquake of magnitude 8.0 struck off the coast of Chile on Tuesday, triggering a tsunami that hit the northern part of the country and a tsunami warning for all of South and Central America's Pacific coast.The U.S. Geological Survey said the quake was very shallow, only 6.2 miles (10 km) below the seabed, and struck at 6:46 p.m. local time (0046 am BST) 62 miles (99 km) northwest of the mining port of Iquique, near the Peruvian border.The Chilean navy said the first tsunami wave had hit the coast within 45 minutes of the quake."An earthquake of this size has the potential to generate a destructive tsunami that can strike coastlines near the epicentre within minutes and more distant coastlines within hours," the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center said.Iquique is a key copper exporting port, close to the country's main copper mines. Mining companies Codelco and BHP Billiton said that had not yet received reports of damage to mines.The warning said that aside from Chile, the coasts of Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica and Nicaragua were also at risk. A tsunami of up to 6.3 feet (1.92 metres) could strike the town of Pisagua, Chile, within 44 minutes of the quake, it said.In 2010, an 8.8-magnitude quake triggered a tsunami that caused major damage in several coastal towns in central-south Chile and killed hundreds of people.(Reporting by Santiago bureau; Additional reporting by Sandra Maler in Washington; Editing by Peter Cooney and Lisa Shumaker)

1 Day, Magnitude 2.5+ Worldwide

29 earthquakes - DownloadUpdated: 2014-04-01 19:19:47 UTC-05:00Showing event times using Local System Time (UTC-05:00)29 earthquakes in map area
  1. 8.0 99km NW of Iquique, Chile 2014-04-01 18:46:45 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  2. 5.3 Southern Mid-Atlantic Ridge 2014-04-01 18:13:04 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  3. 4.7 181km SSW of Fukue, Japan 2014-04-01 17:16:53 UTC-05:00 10.0 km
  4. 2.7 105km W of Willow, Alaska 2014-04-01 16:16:08 UTC-05:00 99.9 km
  5. 2.9 83km WNW of Ferndale, California 2014-04-01 15:18:01 UTC-05:00 24.1 km
  6. 4.5 179km NNW of Saumlaki, Indonesia 2014-04-01 14:43:10 UTC-05:00 117.8 km
  7. 3.0 2km S of La Habra, California 2014-04-01 13:30:44 UTC-05:00 4.0 km
  8. 2.6 21km NE of Soledad, California 2014-04-01 13:25:56 UTC-05:00 7.3 km  
  9.  
  10. Earthquake history in CHILE for Mw 6.5+ earthquakes:
DATE ZONE MAGNITUDE (Mw) NOTES MOON PHASE
2014-03-16CHILE6.7
Full Moon
2013-10-31CHILE6.5
Waning Crescent Moon
2013-05-20CHILE6.5
Waxing Gibbous Moon
2013-01-30CHILE6.8
Waning Gibbous Moon
2012-04-17CHILE6.7
Waning Crescent Moon
2012-03-25CHILE7.1
Waxing Crescent Moon
2011-06-20CHILE6.5
Waning Gibbous Moon
2011-02-14CHILE6.6
Waxing Gibbous Moon
2011-02-11CHILE6.8
Quarter Moon
2011-01-02CHILE7.1 Sunday, January 02, 2011 at 20:20:18 UTCNew Moon
2010-03-11CHILE6.9
Waning Crescent Moon
2010-02-27CHILE8.8 2010 Chile earthquake (Mw 8.8, casualties 525)Full Moon
2009-11-13CHILE6.5
Waning Crescent Moon
2007-12-16CHILE6.7
Quarter Moon
2007-11-14CHILE7.7
Waxing Crescent Moon
2005-06-13CHILE7.8 2005 Tarapaca earthquake (Mw 7.8, 11 dead, 200 injured, occured at 18:44:33 local time)Quarter Moon
2004-05-03CHILE6.6
Full Moon
2003-06-20CHILE6.8
Last Quarter Moon
2002-06-18CHILE6.6 Chile-Argentina borderQuarter Moon
1998-01-30CHILE7.1
Waxing Crescent Moon
1995-07-30CHILE8.0
Waxing Crescent Moon
1985-04-08CHILE7.5
Waning Gibbous Moon
1985-03-03CHILE7.8 Fatalities: 177Waxing Gibbous Moon
1971-07-09CHILE7.5 Fatalities: 90Waning Gibbous Moon
1966-12-28CHILE8.1
Waning Gibbous Moon
1965-03-28CHILE7.4 Fatalities: 400Waning Crescent Moon
1965-02-23CHILE7.0 Fatalities: 1Last Quarter Moon
1960-05-22CHILE9.5 1960 Valdivia earthquake (Mw 9.5, 2300-6000 casualties, most powerful earthquake ever recorded, occured at 15:11 local time, tsunami generated)Waning Crescent Moon
1960-05-21CHILE7.9
Waning Crescent Moon
1953-12-06CHILE7.4
New Moon
1953-05-06CHILE7.6
Last Quarter Moon
1949-12-17CHILE7.8
Waning Crescent Moon
1943-04-06CHILE8.2 Fatalities: 25New Moon
1939-01-25CHILE7.8 Fatalities: 28000Waxing Crescent Moon
1928-12-01CHILE7.6 (estimated)Fatalities: 225Waning Gibbous Moon
1922-11-11CHILE8.5 (estimated)Chile-Argentina borderLast Quarter Moon
1906-08-17CHILE8.6 (estimated)20000 deathsNew Moon
1877-05-10CHILE8.3 (estimated)1877 Iquique earthquake (Mw 8.3, occurred at 21:16 local time, 2541 casualties)Unknown
1868-08-13CHILE9.0 (estimated)Fatalities: 25000Unknown
1835-02-20CHILE8.2 (estimated)1835 Concepcion earthquake (Mw 8.2, casualties: 500)Unknown

DAY 26 MH370 - MISSING PLANE - THE DECEPTION CONTINUES

JEWISH KING JESUS IS COMING AT THE RAPTURE FOR US IN THE CLOUDS-DON'T MISS IT FOR THE WORLD.THE BIBLE TAKEN LITERALLY- WHEN THE PLAIN SENSE MAKES GOOD SENSE-SEEK NO OTHER SENSE-LEST YOU END UP IN NONSENSE.

economist.com pic-REPORTS HAVE IT THE PLANE DID GO TO A NORTHERN MUSLIM COUNTRY.IT CRASHED ON THE PAKISTAN-AFGHANISTAN BORDER REPORTS WITH THE KIDNAPPED FREESCALE -IBM AND OTHER CITIZENS ON IT. AND SOME SURVIVED.

VIDEO RETIRED GENERAL SAYS THE PLANES IN PAKISTAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWiVkShm8cw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPl60cQUz9I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE1BteMsUgk

 Missing MH370: There's still a glimmer of hope-THE STAR ONLINE-APR 2,14-Original article mar 17,14-PETALING JAYA: The possibility of the MH370 flying into a corridor of up to the Kazakhstan-Turkmenistan border naturally increases the chances of it being found.
Mystery of MH370


Institute of Strategic and International Studies (ISIS) Malaysia senior fellow Bunn Nagara said Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak’s statement about the flight’s last communication with satellites offers a glimmer of hope.“Since the northern corridor has more landmass and involves more countries, it would be logical that the airplane might have landed,” he said when contacted yesterday.Bunn said the tense geo- political environment in the region involving countries such as India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and the former Soviet republics such as Tajikistan, Turk-menistan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan would mean their airspace would be tightly monitored.“Therefore getting the co-operation from these countries to provide their radar data would be important to determine whether the MH370 might have flown there,” he said.According to a Reuters report, the southern corridor that starts from Indonesia to the southern part of the Indian ocean is one place where a commercial airliner can crash without anyone spotting it, even by satellite.Quoting a source from the Australian civil aviation authority, the huge expanse of water is one of the most remote places in the world and also one of the deepest, posing potentially enormous challenges for the search effort.“There is almost no radar coverage in most of Western Australia and almost all of the Indian Ocean. If anything is more than 100km offshore, you don’t see it,” the source said.As hijacking has been postulated, reports have emerged about the possible runways where the missing aircraft could have landed.The Mirror of the United Kingdom reported that with enough fuel to fly anywhere from Pakistan to Western Australia, the missing plane could have landed on any of the 634 runways, a projection based on a map from WNYC, website of non-commercial public radio stations located in New York City.“A Boeing 777 pilot is quoted in Slate as estimating runway length requirement to be 1.524km while a recent Wall Street Journal article quoted sources stating the flight could have continued for 3,700km from its last known position,” WNYC said. 

Malaysian Flight 370 May Have Landed in Pakistan, Source at Boeing – Report – UPDATE
Lee Ferrara | March 19, 2014 | Is MH370 in Pakistan?

 The following is from the Langley Intelligence Group Network, which is a Washington, DC-based service providing global intelligence and forecasting from former CIA, U.S. intelligence and national security officers, drawing on an international network of experts and sources:The Malaysian government reportedly is investigating the possibility that missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 avoided radar detection and landed in Pakistan near the Afghanistan border inside Taliban-controlled territory, according to the UK Independent .Investigators confiscated a homemade flight simulator from the pilot’s home to see if it reveals any useful information . . . the Malaysian foreign minister told reporters that Malaysia asked several Asian countries for assistance in its investigation, including Pakistan.Pakistan dismissed the idea that a Boeing 777 could land undetected inside the country but promised to work with the Malaysian government in its search for the missing plane.LIGNET analysts received information from a source at Boeing that the company believes the plane did land in Pakistan.Israel is taking the possibility of a terrorist attack seriously by mobilizing air defenses and scrutinizing approaching civilian aircraft, according to the Times of Israel.A Boeing 777 requires a lengthy, 7,500-foot runway, and Pakistan has many of them, meaning Flight 370 could conceivably be hidden in a hangar inside the country.U.S. surveillance of the area may be able to shed light on the theory through satellite imagery or signals intelligence.
SOURCE: http://www.lignet.com/InBriefs/Malaysia-Hunts-for-Missing-Jet-in-Pakistan-Israel-#ixzz2wND0hJpK
Airnation.net has also learned from our sources that the above is accurate. Whether the source is correct (that the missing airliner is there) we do not know at this time. But the source is reliable in our view.U.S. assets are pulling out of the Indian Ocean (as already reported) and focusing on the ‘north’ corridor of the missing 777. 

Special Services: Malaysian Boeing located near Kandahar, the passengers and crew captured
MK.RU--MAR 31,14-UPDDATED APR 2,14


"Pilots Flight MH370 not guilty of stealing a plane was hijacked by unknown persons," said the "MK" authoritative source in the security services. This information in any of the world's media has not previously been published.

"Missing March 8 on Malaysia Airlines airliner with 227 passengers on board and 12th members of the crew captured and is southeast of Kandahar, in Afghanistan, near the border with Pakistan. Aircraft stands on a small" rural "road with a broken wing - t . liner is alleged to have committed a hard landing. All passengers alive, divided into seven groups and live in a "mud hut" from hand to mouth. From the aircraft were captured about 20 Asian Professionals, the capture of which was necessary, presumably for bargaining with the U.S. side. That Currently there are hijacking - someone's order. " All this correspondent "MK" on condition of anonymity said a source in the security services.

But could the Boeing 777-200ER take the usual "rural" road? Expert Explains Accident Investigation Evgeny Kuzmin (Centre for Scientific and Technical Research and Expertise)
- Such aircraft may well sit on plain dirt road less dense surface length of about 2000 meters. However, should be free to approach the runway - that is, there should be trees and mountains. Must have appropriate opportunities to be able to maneuver. When hard landing on the "bad" surface, of course, can break under the chassis or broken wing (weight 777-200ER with the passengers, crew and cargo - 200 tons. - "MK").

THE MISSING PLANE MH370 SITUATION AT 12:03AM WED APR 02,2014

Map showing distance of planned search area from Perth, calculated flight path and previously searched areasNEW SEARCH SITE CLOSER TO AUSTRALIA-JACC PIC

NOW THE SEARCH HAS MOVED CLOSER TO AUSTRALIA.THE LAST 2 SCENES NEVER GOT ANY PROOF OF DEBRIS.MUCH LESS FLIGHT MH370-777-200ER.SEE WHAT ELSE TODAY BRINGS.AND THE PLANE IS CONSIDERED A CRIME SCENE.THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT DELIBERATELY OCCURED ON THE PLANE.AND THE MISSING OF THE PLANE.SO MUCH FOR ANDERSON CIA COOPER AND HIS DEFENDING THE PILOT AND CO-PILOT.THEY STILL MIGHT BE INNOCENT. BUT THE CRIME SCENE NOW.SAYS THEIR NOT INNOCENT.

ITS 9:30AM APR 2,14-AND ALL THE PASSENGERS ARE CLEARED FROM THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.ITS DOWN TO THE PILOT-CO-PILOT AND 10 WORKERS FOR MALAYSIAN AIRLINES THEIR CHECKING OUT.SO THE KIDNAPPING COULD STILL HAVE OCCURRED AND THE ONE OR BOTH OF THE PILOTS AND SOME CREW MEMBERS COULD HAVE STILL DIVERTED THE PLANE AND LANDED IT SOME WHERE.THEN RETOOK OFF AND DONE A SEX FOR MURDER-ALLAH 72 VIRGIN SUICIDE KILL IN THE INDIAN OCEAN NEAR THE ANDAMAN ISLANDS IF THAT LADY REALLY DID SEE A PLANES TAIL AND WING IN THE AREA.LETS CHECK THEM NORTHERN MUSLIM COUNTRIES AS WELL AS IRAN VERY CLOSELY NOW. FOR THE KIDNAPPED INTELLIGENCE WORKERS FROM FREESCALE-IBM AND THE REST.

MH370: passengers cleared but crew still under microscope-Lindsay Murdoch April 02, 2014-Too many unanswered questions: Search for MH370 continues as passengers are cleared on any wrongdoing.-TheAge.com.au

Malaysian police have cleared the 227 passengers on board the missing Malaysian airliner of suspicion of hijacking but the plane’s crew, including pilots, are still under investigation.Malaysia’s top police officer, Khalid Abu Bakar, admits a three-week investigation has been inconclusive and that investigators may never discover what caused the plane’s disappearance.“Give us more time,” Inspector-General Khalid told Bernama, Malaysia’s state news agency.“We may not even known the real cause of this incident,” he said.As the relatives of passengers angrily accuse Malaysian authorities of withholding information, Inspector-General Khalid said releasing some details could jeopardise the largest and most complex investigation undertaken in Malaysia.“I’m sorry, there are things we cannot reveal to you … not that I don’t want to reveal to you, but we cannot do that because it’s a criminal investigation, ongoing,” he said.“We have not concluded the whole thing and we are still awaiting reports from experts overseas and internally.”Inspector-General Khalid said: “Who knows, maybe there will be prosecution later on. So this will affect the prosecution’s case, if we start revealing our findings.”The police investigation has focused on the possibilities of hijacking, sabotage or psychological problems among passengers or crew.FBI forensic experts are still examining a flight simulator that was seized from the home of senior pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, but have so far not found anything suspicious.

Police have so far interviewed 170 people.

Lack of information about the investigation has fueled unsubstantiated conspiracy theories in Malaysia’s social media.One of the most popular is that the plane was diverted by CIA operatives masquerading as passengers to the US military installation in Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.According to the theory, cargo in the plane was related to the technology of unmanned drone flights.

Media Release-2 April 2014-JACC

Up to ten planes and nine ships will assist in today's search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.The Australian Maritime Safety Authority has determined a search area of about 221,000 square kilometres, 1504 kilometres North West of Perth.Nine military planes will assist in the search, while one civil jet will provide a communications relay. The first aircraft departed for the search area at 6am WST.Nine ships have been tasked to search.The weather forecast for today's search is for marginal conditions, with areas of broken cloud, sea fog and isolated thunderstorms, reducing visibility.

Malaysian PM to visit Perth as MH370 search moves closer to western Australian coast
English.news.cn   2014-04-02 07:36:22 -english news.cn


PERTH, Australia, April 2 (Xinhua) -- Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak is scheduled to visit this western Australian port city on Wednesday for the ongoing search for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370.Meanwhile, the designated search area for Wednesday is closer to the western Australian coast, now about 1,490 km northwest of Perth, according to the latest information from the Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA).In parallel, the intensity of the hunt keeps increasing. British Ministry of Defense (MoD) said Tuesday that Royal Navy submarine HMS Tireless has arrived in the southern Indian Ocean to help with the search.With its advanced underwater search capability, HMS Tireless, a Trafalgar Class submarine, will be able to contribute to the efforts to locate the missing plane, the MoD said.The MoD added that, HMS Echo, a British Royal Navy coastal survey ship, is also due to join the hunt soon for the ill-fated Boeing 777 jetliner, which disappeared early March 8 while carrying 239 people -- including 154 Chinese passengers -- from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.Seven Chinese vessels and two Chinese IL-76 planes are involved in the search west of Perth, and a three-ship Chinese naval flotilla previously deployed in the Gulf of Aden for escort missions has teamed up with a Chinese patrol vessel to search for the missing plane south of Australia's Christmas Island.Despite massive multinational efforts, no hard evidence has so far been acquired about the whereabouts of MH370.


I saw flight MH370 floating in water on day it vanished’: Malaysian woman claims she spotted missing jet as she flew over Andaman Islands – but was ignored by police-mar 21,14-Osun Defender---'I saw flight MH370 floating in water on day it vanished': Malaysian woman claims she spotted missing jet as she flew over Andaman Islands - but was ignored by police.Malaysian woman claims to have seen missing MH370 in the water near Andaman Islands on day it disappeared

As aircraft and ships continued to search for debris which might be that of the missing flight MH370 on Friday a Malaysian woman on a flight across the Indian Ocean claimed to have seen an aircraft in the water near the Andaman Islands on the day the the jet disappeared.The Kuala Lumpur wife is so convinced about what she saw at 2.30 in the afternoon of March 8, several hours after MH370 had been reported missing, that she has filed an official report with police.Is this the simple MH370 theory to end them all? Claim that fire knocked out crew as they headed for emergency landing takes web by storm.And she admitted that she had received scorn about her account, including from a pilot who said the aircraft she was on would have been too high for her to have seen anything on the ocean below.But mother of 10 Mrs Latife Dalelah, 53, insisted she saw a silver object in the shape of an aircraft on the water as she was flying from Jeddah to Kuala Lumpur. It was about an hour after her aircraft had flown past the southern Indian city of Chennai.‘ Throughout the journey I was staring out of the window of the aircraft as I couldn’t sleep during the flight,’ she told the New Straits Times.The in-flight monitor showed that her plane was crossing the Indian Ocean and she had seen several shipping liners and islands – before she saw the silvery object.‘I took a closer look and was shocked to see what looked like the tail and wing of an aircraft on the water,’ she said.‘I woke my friends on the flight but they laughed me off,’ she added.The same reaction has come from a pilot who questioned how anyone flying at about seven miles above sea level could see anything like a boat or ship from so high up.But Mrs Dalelah insisted to the paper: ‘I know what I saw. I am convinced that I saw the aircraft. I will not lie. I had just returned from my pilgrimage.’A large part of what she thought was an aircraft was submerged, she said. When she tried to tell an air stewardess what she had seen, she was told to get some sleep.When her plane landed at Kuala Lumpur at about 4pm on that Saturday she told her children what she had seen. ‘That is when they told me that MH370 had gone missing,’ she told the paper.‘My son-in-law, a policeman, was convinced that I had seen an aircraft and asked me to lodge a police report the same day.‘Many of my friends on the flight doubted me at first, but they are beginning to believe me now that we know the plane (MH370) turned back and entered the Indian Ocean.’The agency co-ordinating the exhaustive search operation for MH370 still holds out hope of finding people alive, as authorities scramble to cover the massive 600,000 square-kilometre (230,000 square-mile) search area.The Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) revealed on Friday that they were preparing for the remote possibility of a human rescue mission, should the two large objects spotted by satellite some 2,500 kilometres (1,500 miles) off the coast of Perth be related to the missing Malaysian Airlines flight.John Young, the general manager of AMSA’s Emergency Response Division, said the focus of the massive search operation – which now includes 29 planes, 21 ships and six helicopters from more than 20 contributor countries – was first and foremost on trying to locate the large pieces of debris, one up to 24 metres (78ft) in length, the other five metres (16 feet).‘We want to find these objects because they might be the best lead to where we might find people to be rescued,’ Mr Young said.‘We have done some work on that area and we’re still focused on that task, to find people to be rescued.‘It is a very large team effort… with the international community providing technical support and information and we’re all very grateful for that.’The two objects are in one of the most remote areas of the world – about the same distance from Perth as London is from Moscow – which means that aircraft only have a limited time to conduct searches.And it takes them four hours to get there.What’s more, the area is renowned for shipping debris – so much so that it’s dubbed ‘the maritime dustbin’.There is a strong chance, therefore, that the objects in fact fell off a ship.Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott, who announced news of the objects on Thursday, warned: ‘It could just be a container that has fallen off a ship. We just don’t know.’Treacherous weather hampered Thursday’s search effort, but the operation resumed on Friday in much clearer weather, with planes scouring an area slightly to the north of the zone that was combed initially.This is because strong currents may have moved the objects.‘It’s about the most inaccessible spot that you can imagine on the face of the earth, but if there is anything down there, we will find it,’ Mr Abbott told reporters in Papua New Guineau, where he is on a visit.‘We owe it to the families of those people (on board) to do no less.’The pilot from the first RAAF P3 Orion to return from its second sweep of the search area told a press gathering at Pearce RAAF air base: ‘We’ve got a lot of hope.’‘We got out there and had really good weather,’ he said.‘Compared to yesterday the visibility was great, more than 10km visibility, we had a really opportunity to see.‘There are more aircraft out there, still searching, and with any luck we’ll find something shortly. We’ve got a lot of hope.’DAILYMAIL.CO.UK

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Malaysian credibility in jet hunt challenged again-By CHRIS BRUMMITT and GILLIAN WONG 4 hours ago-APR 1,14-YahoonewsKUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — It may mean little to investigators that the last words air traffic controllers heard from the lost jetliner were "Good night, Malaysian three-seven-zero," rather than "All right, good night." But to Malaysian officials whose credibility has been questioned almost from the beginning, it means a great deal.Malaysian officials said more than two weeks ago that "All right, good night," were the last words, and that the co-pilot uttered them. They changed the account late Monday and said they are still investigating who it was that spoke. The discrepancy added to the confusion and frustration families of the missing already felt more than three weeks after Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared, and as of Tuesday officials had not explained how they got it wrong."This sort of mistake hits at the heart of trust in their communications. If Malaysia is changing what the pilot said, people start thinking, 'What are they going to change next?'" said Hamish McLean, an expert in risk and crisis communication at Griffith University in Brisbane, Australia."Information in a crisis is absolutely critical. When we are dealing with such a small amount of information it needs to be handled very carefully," he said.Authorities have been forced on the defensive by the criticism, the most forceful of which has come from a group of Chinese relatives who accuse them of lying about — or even involvement in — the plane's disappearance. In part responding to domestic political criticism, defense minister Hishammuddin Hussein has taken to retweeting supportive comments on Twitter. He has twice in recent days proclaimed that "history would judge us well" over the handling of the crisis.The government's opponents disagree.Opposition leader Lim Kit Siang said the correction set off a "medley of shame, sadness and anger" and strengthened the case for creating an opposition-led parliamentary committee to investigate the government's performance in the search.The communications skills of any government or airline would have been severely tested by the search for the Boeing 777-200 and its 239 passengers and crew. So far not a scrap of debris has been found."There has been very little to tell and a lot of unanswered questions," said Andrew Herdman, director-general of the Association of Asia Pacific Airlines. "There is frustration on the lack of new information, frustration over progress with investigations and the search. That frustration is being channeled to the Malaysian authorities but I think it's a bit premature to use that to reflect adversely on how they are doing." Still, the government's handling of information has at times fed perceptions that it was holding back. From the first day of the search, crews were looking far to the west of the plane's last point of contact with air-traffic controllers, but it took about a week for officials to explain that radar had detected the plane in the area."There are some things that I can tell you and some things that I can't," Malaysia's civil aviation chief said cryptically in the early days of the search."That was a terrible, terrible response," said Lyall Mercer, the principal of Australian-based Mercer PR, a public relations company. "It says to the families that 'we know things that we are not going to share' and that 'something else is more important than you'."The piece of information that families most want to hear — whether their relatives are alive or dead — has remained impossible to say with finality, creating a dilemma for the government.On March 24, it tried to address that. Malaysia Airlines officials met families in Kuala Lumpur and Beijing and sent a text message to others saying "we have to assume beyond any reasonable doubt that MH370 has been lost and that none of those on board survived."At a news conference half an hour later, Prime Minister Najib Razak was less direct. He said with "deep sadness and regret" that the plane's last known position was "a remote location, far from any possible landing sites," and that the flight "ended" in the southern Indian Ocean.Sarah Bacj, a 48-year-old American expatriate teacher whose boyfriend, Philip Wood, was on the flight, said the decision by Malaysia Airlines to inject some certainty into the fate of the passengers was a mistake. Until then, she said she thought the Malaysian government had acted responsibly, but the text message "totally violated my trust.""I fell off the cliff," Bacj said. "The way the text message came, I expected proof. That they had found the bodies, or that they had found confirmed wreckage, or something ... but they didn't actually tell us anything at all. The only thing they did was make a judgment statement about evidence — unconfirmed evidence, mind you."The final words from the cockpit, and who said them, are of interest not only because there are few other clues to the disappearance, but because the communication occurred just a minute before the plane's transponders were shut off. The words were in English, as aviation communications are around the world.PR experts and professionals said the important thing now is to try and give the families as much information as possible, before the media gets hold of it, and to keep paying attention to them even when the media gaze had drifted. On Tuesday, the Malaysian government announced that technical experts from Malaysia, China and Australia would brief the families in a closed-door session in Kuala Lumpur._______Associated Press writer Eileen Ng in Kuala Lumpur contributed to this report. 

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NATO BANS ALL ACTIVITY WITH RUSSIA-RUSSIA - UKRAINE SITUATION WEEK 05 DAY 3

JEWISH KING JESUS IS COMING AT THE RAPTURE FOR US IN THE CLOUDS-DON'T MISS IT FOR THE WORLD.THE BIBLE TAKEN LITERALLY- WHEN THE PLAIN SENSE MAKES GOOD SENSE-SEEK NO OTHER SENSE-LEST YOU END UP IN NONSENSE.

WORLD POWERS IN THE LAST DAYS (END OF AGE OF GRACE NOT THE WORLD)

EUROPEAN UNION-KING OF WEST-DAN 9:26-27,DAN 7:23-24,DAN 11:40,REV 13:1-10
EGYPT-KING OF THE SOUTH-DAN 11:40
RUSSIA-KING OF THE NORTH-EZEK 38:1-2,EZEK 39:1-3
CHINA-KING OF THE EAST-DAN 11:44,REV 9:16,18
VATICAN-RELIGIOUS LEADER-REV 13:11-18,REV 17:4-5,9,18

DANIEL 9:27
27 And he( THE ROMAN,EU PRESIDENT) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:(1X7=7 YEARS) and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,(3 1/2 yrs in TEMPLE SACRIFICES STOPPED) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

DANIEL 7:23-25
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast (EU,REVIVED ROME) shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth,(7TH WORLD EMPIRE) which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.(TRADING BLOCKS-10 WORLD REGIONS/TRADE BLOCS)
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings(10 NATIONS-10 WORLD DIVISION WORLD GOVERNMENT) that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.(TAKE OVER 3 WORLD REGIONS)

THE RUSSIA - UKRAINE SITUATION AT 12:00AM WED APR 02,14

Nato to keep expanding, suspends Russia ties
Today @ 19:52-APR 1,14-EUOBSERVER-By Andrew Rettman


BRUSSELS - Nato states have said the alliance will keep on expanding despite Russia’s protests, while freezing most co-operation with Russia over the Ukraine crisis.“We reaffirm that, in accordance with our policy, the alliance’s door remains open to new members in the future,” foreign ministers from the 28 Nato countries said in a joint statement marking the anniversary of former enlargements in Brussels on Tuesday (1 April).They added in a second communique that “we have decided to suspend all practical civilian and military co-operation between Nato and Russia” because Russia “gravely breached the trust upon which our co-operation must be based” by invading Ukraine.The partial suspension will allow for ad-hoc meetings with Russia’s Nato ambassador, however. The suspension will also be reviewed in June.Outgoing Nato secretary general Anders Fogh Rasmussen added in an op-ed published in several media the same day that “any European state in a position to further the principles of the alliance and to contribute to the security of the north Atlantic area can apply to join. We stand by that principle.”He listed Bosnia, Macedonia, Montenegro, and the former Soviet republic of Georgia as countries which aspire to join.He did not mention Ukraine. But the foreign ministers said: “Nato and Ukraine will intensify co-operation and promote defence reforms through capacity building and capability development programmes. Nato allies will also reinforce the Nato Liaison Office in Kiev with additional experts.”The meeting comes as Russian troops continue to occupy Crimea and to mass on Ukraine’s eastern borders. Media reports on Monday indicated some Russian troops had started to pull back. But Rasmussen told press on Tuesday he could not confirm this.The ministers’ meeting also comes ahead of a Nato summit in Cardiff, Wales, in September.Nato at a previous summit in Bucharest in 2008 declined to offer a so-called Membership Action Plan to Georgia and Ukraine due to French and German concerns over Russia relations.For some, such as former Ukrainian president Viktor Yushchenko, who recently spoke to EUobserver in Brussels, the move was a “huge mistake” which opened the door to Russia’s invasion of Georgia the same year, and now Ukraine.For the Russian foreign ministry, which published a statement on Tuesday, the attempts to pull Ukraine closer to Nato caused "a freezing of Russian-Ukrainian political contacts, a headache between Nato and Russia and ... division in Ukrainian society". Despite the Nato suspension of Russia ties, the foreign ministers of France, Germany, and Poland at a separate meeting in Weimar, Germany, on Monday and Tuesday, said the EU should keep listening to Russia."We propose EU-Russia talks with Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia about the consequences of the EU association agreements," they said, referring to EU political and free trade pacts due to be finalised by June.An EU diplomat noted the talks would take place at the level of senior officials and would cover technical questions on the compatability of EU free trade arrangements with Russia’s Customs Union.Marcin Wojciechowski, the Polish foreign ministers’ spokesman, told EUobserver it would be an “over-interpretaion” to say the talks could see Russia veto further progress on EU ties.

Extra US troops in Romania

With Russian military drills in the Baltic region also raising security concerns in Nato’s eastern members, Tuesday’s Nato meeting confirmed “Nato’s cohesion and commitment to deterrence and collective defence against any threat of aggression to the alliance.”Denmark and the US have already sent extra F16 fighter jets to the region, while Germany said it is ready to send Awacs surveillance planes.The US is also planning to send 600 more troops and extra planes to Romania, which borders Moldova and its Russian-occupied breakaway region of Transniestria.But for his part, Polish PM Donald Tusk told press in Warsaw on Tuesday the new deployment is taking too long."We are gaining something step by step, but the pace of Nato increasing its military presence for sure could be faster … This is a unsatisfactory result for us,” he noted, Reuters reports.

As Russia growls, Swedes, Finns eye defence options, NATO
By Alistair Scrutton and Sakari Suoninen 3 hours ago-APR 1,14-Yahoonews


STOCKHOLM/HELSINKI (Reuters) - When Russian warplanes staged a mock bombing run on Sweden last year, air defences were caught napping. It was the middle of the night and no Swedish planes were scrambled.Instead, Danish jets belonging to NATO's Baltic mission based in Lithuania, took to the air to shadow the Russians.The discussion that incident triggered over Sweden's ability to defend itself has grown with Russia's seizure of Crimea from Ukraine. As in neighbour and fellow EU member Finland, Swedes wonder whether to seek shelter in the U.S.-led NATO alliance, abandoning Stockholm's two centuries of formal neutrality.Sweden has talked of a "doctrinal shift" in defence policy. In Helsinki, where "Finlandisation" became a Cold War byword for self-imposed neutrality driven by fear of a powerful neighbour, the government has talked of an "open debate" on joining NATO.Talk of NATO underscores anxieties that feed calls for more defence cooperation and spending. But membership seems distant, with voters in both countries sceptical of the benefits, and wary of the costs of taking on new international commitments.Both nations have a history of dealing with Moscow in their own particular ways. Sweden's loss of Finland to Russia in the time of Napoleon prompted it to give up on war and armed pacts.Finland, which won independence during Russia's revolution of 1917 but nearly lost it fighting the Soviet Union in World War Two, kept close to the West economically and politically during the Cold War but avoided confrontation with Moscow.Like Sweden, it joined the European Union only in 1995.For all the scepticism about NATO, however, worries have been growing in Scandinavia since Russia's action in Crimea.Russian troops held exercises on the Finnish border this week. A former aide to Vladimir Putin made waves by saying that, after ex-Soviet Ukraine, the president might eye Finland next.Both Nordic nations may bolster defence spending and forge a closer military partnership between themselves as they face Russia across the Baltic and along Finland's long land border.So far neither has risked finding out what Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev meant when he said last year that Finnish or Swedish NATO membership would force Moscow to "respond".

TIME FOR SECURITY BLANKET?

As the Russian bombing practice showed when NATO jets scrambled into action over Sweden, both nations could hope for some protection from EU allies and the United States even without joining the defence alliance.Both Swedish and Finnish armed forces cooperate with the other three Nordic states which are in NATO - Denmark, Norway and Iceland - and both have cooperated with NATO in Afghanistan.Swedish jets helped Libyan rebels in 2011 and in March joined a NATO exercise in Norway, near the Russian border.Still, some politicians are already making noises they may one day have to go further."I think it would be good to have an open debate about NATO already now and I hope that everyone would participate in it, even those who oppose the membership," Finnish Prime Minister Jyrki Katainen told online newspaper Verkkouutiset last week.In a sign of the times, while Finland cut unemployment and child benefits in a March budget, defence got off lightly.Swedish Deputy Prime Minister Jan Bjorklund called last month for a "doctrinal shift" in defence policy after the Crimea crisis. Calling Russia "a bit more erratic and unpredictable", Finance Minister Anders Borg called for "a substantial scaling up" of defence spending.Borg's statement came after Sweden moved two fighter jets to Gotland, a strategically important Baltic island where spending cuts in recent years had all but eliminated defences.Sweden's defence spending fell to 1.2 percent of GDP in 2012, according to the Stockholm-based SIPRI think tank, compared with 2 percent at the turn of the century.Rather than join NATO, the Ukraine crisis may see Sweden and Finland more active in the Nordic Defence Cooperation - NORDEFCO - with the three Nordic states which are in the alliance.

GETTING MORE INVOLVED

Even as some analysts see the "Finlandisation" of Ukraine - former U.S. secretary of state Henry Kissinger has suggested Kiev follow Cold War-era Helsinki in cooperating with the West while avoiding "institutional hostility" toward Moscow - 21st-century Finland has shed some inhibitions about Russia.It has joined in EU sanctions against Moscow and politicians have criticised the annexation of Crimea.Katainen told a German newspaper last month that the term Finlandisation - coined by West German critics of their own government's perceived passivity toward Soviet threats - was a misleading one. Finland was "not neutral" as it was an EU member, he said - while adding that this did not stop his government from maintaining excellent relations with Russia.Finland been cautious about imposing sanctions on Moscow over Ukraine. But that may be more due to worries about the effect on its own economy rather than fear of upsetting its massive neighbour.Many Finns view Russia with suspicion and battles against Stalin's Red Army form a key part of their national identity. But there is also a sense among voters that Finland would be left to fight alone, whether in a defence alliance or not.Sweden, too, has long taken a standoffish position in international affairs, avoiding even the world wars of the last century. After the Russian bombing rehearsal, Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt played down its importance, saying Russia had "neither the will nor the capacity to attack Swedish territory".But tensions over Ukraine have come as Sweden and Finland have grown more critical of Putin. Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt, who first became prominent in the 1980s probing Soviet submarine incursions in Swedish waters, is one of the most vocal figures in the EU against what he calls Russian expansionism.

VOTERS SCEPTICAL

Polls show a clear majority oppose NATO membership in Sweden and Finland. About a third of Swedes favour joining the alliance and only around a fifth of Finns."There is no public support for NATO membership and Sweden has greater freedom to act if we're not part of NATO," said Peter Hultqvist, who chairs the parliamentary defence committee."There is a belief that our tradition of staying outside military alliances is the best way to preserve peace," he said, before adding a note of caution: "We must strive for an improvement of our military strength."When the ex-Soviet Baltic states joined NATO in 2004 - part of an expansion that saw the alliance take in most of Moscow's Cold War satellites in the Warsaw Pact - they did so without provoking more than a rhetorical reaction from Russia. Some thought it would encourage the two Nordic states to follow suit.Though they did not take that chance, some security analysts argue that NATO membership could now benefit the Nordic states in ways that go beyond the threat of military aggression. They point to a cyber attack, or a risk of gas supplies being cut.However, few see an immediate prospect of NATO accession."Crimea has at least furthered the argument that there should not be any further reductions in military expenditure," said Ian Anthony of the Stockholm International Peace Research Programme (SIPRI). "But in terms of NATO, the balance sheet is in the direction of keeping things as they are."Even Finland's European affairs minister Alexander Stubb, one of the few high-profile politicians in Helsinki who favours NATO membership, said now, at a time of particularly fraught relations with Moscow, was not the right time."One should not enter when the weather is bad, but when the sun is shining," he said. "And that is not the case now."(Added reporting by Johan Sennero in Stockholm and Andrius Sytas in Vilnius; Editing by Alastair Macdonald)

West stumbles as autocratic force trumps economics
By David Rohde 2 hours ago-APR 1,14-Yahoonews


(Reuters) - A quarter-century after the fall of the Soviet Union, authoritarian rulers such as Vladimir Putin and Bashar al-Assad are showing they can and will defy international norms, suppress dissent and use military force. American policymakers are struggling with how to respond."It's a big philosophical question about how to deal with a strong state with anti-Western and autocratic proclivities," said Michael McFaul, the most recent American ambassador to Moscow. "I would say on that score we are kind of confused as a country."Citing the sweeping unpopularity of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, American officials have embraced economic sanctions as their primary means of pressuring foreign governments. In an interconnected, 21st-century global economy, President Barack Obama argues, economic sanctions are more powerful than ever.If Russia continues on its current course, Obama warned last week, "the isolation will deepen, sanctions will increase and there will be more consequences for the Russian economy."He may be proven right. Over the course of 2014, the threat of economic sanctions may result in Putin backing down in Crimea and Ukraine. And historic sanctions against Iran - which slashed oil sales and cut the country off from the world banking system - could produce an accord that halts Iran's nuclear program.If not, a 16th-century Machiavellian truism will re-assert its dominance: The party most willing to decisively use force will prevail over a noncommittal opponent."What we've seen with Assad and Putin is a willingness to smile at international norms and pursue power politics regardless of the cost," said Andrew Weiss, a Russia expert at the Carnegie Endowment and former official in the George H.W. Bush and Clinton administrations. "And if the West is not united and America's interests are not immediately threatened, the response immediately becomes attenuated."How to respond has already become an issue in the 2016 presidential race. In the weeks since Putin sent Russian troops into Crimea, Republican senators Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Paul Ryan all criticized Obama's response. But none of them called for an American intervention in Ukraine.

ECONOMIC CONNECTIONS

Fiona Hill, a Russia expert at the Brookings Institution and a former National Intelligence Council official, said those who believed the collapse of the Soviet Union signified the triumph of Western democratic capitalism were deluding themselves. A large number of Russians remained deeply skeptical of Western norms."It was only a very small elite around Yeltsin who were buying this," she said. "Too many people (Westerners) saw what they wanted to see, rather than what was happening."Then the global financial crisis strengthened a perception in parts of the world that Western democracy was failing - both politically and economically, Hill added.Shadi Hamid, a Middle East expert at the Brookings Institution's Saban Center, said Obama's decision to not intervene in Syria after last September's chemical weapons attack created a perception of American weakness. Strongmen, such as Egypt's military ruler, Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, had been emboldened."They think they can get away with more than ever," Hamid said. "And this is tied to a growing sense of weakness under the Obama administration, whether it's fair or unfair."Obama administration officials deny that. They argue that another costly intervention in the Middle East would further weaken the American economy. And they contend that economic and technological strength - not brute force alone - will be the dominant source of power for decades to come.Steven Pifer, a former American ambassador to Ukraine and now a fellow at the Brookings Institution, argued that economic inter-connectedness will have an impact on Putin. Pifer said the Russian leader knows he needs trade with the outside world."While the West may rule out the military option," Pifer wrote in an email, "it has other tools, including political isolation and financial sanctions that could inflict serious pain on the Russian economy."Weiss, the Carnegie expert, argued that Russia and Syria represent vastly different situations. Russia is far more economically connected to the world than Syria, he said. And Putin is not accused of killing thousands of his people and displacing millions in a bid to hold onto power, like Assad.But Weiss said he was unsure that economic sanctions alone would stop the Russian leader. "He's thinking about things in a very shrewd, pure-power way."What leverage do we have against Putin?" he asked. "That's why people are somewhat stumped about what to do."In the case of Iran, years of false claims from officials regarding its nuclear program finally prompted Europe to agree sweeping economic sanctions that rebounded on Europe more than on the United States. Barring a Russian military incursion deeper into Ukraine, "the Europeans are not willing to go farther," he said. "They're happy to compartmentalize and go back to business as usual."

"THEY WANT IT MORE"

Hill compared the current world today with the 19th century,when trade was vast but nations still clashed." The world was incredibly connected," she said. "And it didn't produce any greater political outcomes. You remember a lot of gunboat diplomacy."She said that economic interdependence flows both ways."There is mutual dependency here," she added. "There is mutual leverage. We can use it and they can use it."Experts said that for Putin, Crimea's port at Sevastopol was vital. In Egypt, Sisi believes he is fighting an existential threat with the Muslim Brotherhood. In Washington, American officials disagree over whether core American interests are at stake, and the autocrats know it."There is a calculation there," Hamid said. "They know that they want it more than we do."(Edited by Sara Ledwith)

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